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By John Mackey, May 21, 2008  |  Meet the Blogger  |  More Posts by John Mackey

I can’t tell you how good it feels to be able to write in my blog again. Even though I wanted to respond openly and truthfully when confronted by the various accusations of wrongdoing last year, our attorneys and Board of Directors both thought it best for me to hold off while they conducted their Special Investigation and the SEC handled its inquiry. Those matters now are completed with the board affirming their complete support for me and the SEC recommending that no enforcement action be made against Whole Foods Market or me. Now that I’m free to post again, I am going to attempt to set the record straight about my internet postings in the past under the screen name “rahodeb.” I promise I’ll be moving on to other topics, but indulge me while I finally get to share my point of view on this particular topic. Here it goes…

 

WHY POST ONLINE? When I first discovered the Whole Foods Market online community at Yahoo! sometime back in 1997 or 1998, I was very excited to find a community that discussed Whole Foods Market. It was a very useful forum for me to explore various ideas and theories, and to have them discussed, criticized and debated. Online criticisms and debates helped me to better understand the strengths and weaknesses of the ideas being discussed, including my own. I could participate in the community as just another unknown participant on equal terms with every other participant.

 

My family life when I was growing up included having various discussions and debates at the dinner table about anything and everything people wanted to discuss. My father was a very passionate and skilled debater and he passed on both his passion and his skills to his three children; I use these skills in business everyday. I process information dialectically—I very much need to have ideas put forth, analyzed, and criticized from various perspectives to help me to fully understand the ideas.

 

The main reason I began posting on Yahoo! was because I enjoy and learn from online community interactions. I also like to express my viewpoints and I like to argue and debate.

 

From the very beginning, I also recognized that this online community had a large number of Whole Foods Market bashers and stock “shorters” who regularly made defamatory and often inaccurate statements about the company. Most of my posts at Yahoo! were made in response to these defamatory attacks on Whole Foods Market. I co-founded Whole Foods Market 28 years ago and have been its only CEO during its entire existence. Next to my wife, I love Whole Foods Market more than anything else in the entire world. Creating and growing this company has been my life’s work. Like any good parent, I wanted to defend my “child” when it was being maligned and attacked unfairly, and I often came to its defense, wielding my debating skills as best I could.

 

WHY A SCREEN NAME?

In online communities such as Yahoo!, the use of screen names is the normal custom as it allows posters to totally engage in the various discussions and debates that were taking place there. An online screen name is a great “equalizer” between people. No one knows who most of the other participants are in everyday life, and so everyone relates to everyone else on equal terms. The true identity in the outside world is irrelevant for purposes of participation in these communities. If a person is well known or famous in “real life” almost no one in the special community knows or cares. What matters is the quality of what is said—not who says it. I do not think that the virtue of transparency is particularly applicable or relevant when it comes to online communities whose custom is to participate through screen names. Within this context, I believed being consistent with the custom was more important than promoting the virtue of transparency as long as my information was accurate and my arguments well-reasoned.

 

CLEARING UP THE CONFUSION

Contrary to the way it was portrayed in the media, I did not participate on Yahoo! primarily to denigrate Wild Oats. I think this is one of the areas of greatest confusion for people. Here is how I see it:

  • OUT OF CONTEXT: I really want to encourage interested people to take the time to read my posts at Yahoo! in the full context in which they were written—usually a discussion or a debate and usually in defense of Whole Foods Market from other posters’ criticism. It is also valuable to read the posts preceding mine. More than 95 percent of my posts were made in response to other participants’ posts. I rarely originated posts myself. I made more than 1,400 posts on the Whole Foods Market and Wild Oats online community message boards on Yahoo! over an eight-year period. (Even though that sounds like a lot, it averages out to about 3 posts per week.) In the total context of my participation in these two communities, my comments regarding Wild Oats occurred much, much less frequently than my comments about Whole Foods Market. I usually had many other things on my mind that I wanted to discuss more than Wild Oats. Unfortunately, the media selected just a few comments out of the 1,400+ that I wrote, presented them out of their proper context, and sensationalized them to tell a story with more controversy and conflict. This was very misleading coverage about my rahodeb postings which exaggerated, distorted and, in some cases, simply lied about what I actually said. The comments that were taken out of proper context of the overall discussion do not accurately represent the actual spirit of rahodeb’s postings, in my opinion.
  • MY COMPETITIVE SPIRIT: I am also a very competitive person. I very much doubt that Whole Foods Market would even exist today without my competitive entrepreneurial drive first creating and then pushing the company forward to grow and evolve for more than 28 years now. I don’t wish to apologize for being highly competitive because much of my drive and creativity come from this competitiveness. While I respect and admire a number of our competitors and have learned from them, I certainly don’t love them, and that included Wild Oats when we competed against it. Whole Foods Market directly competed with Wild Oats for about 14 years, and sometimes the competition between us was both intense and personal. I believe that is largely the way business works—it is highly competitive. However, I don’t believe that I ever crossed the line of fair but vigorous debate in these postings. It is also important to understand that I did not single out Wild Oats as the only competitor I discussed. From time to time I also discussed and debated the virtues of food co-ops, specialty grocers and national and regional grocers.
  • RIGHT TO EXPRESS MY OPINION: All of the Whole Foods Market information that I used in my posts was information that previously had been disclosed by the Company and was included in the public domain. I strongly believe in the First Amendment of our Constitution and our right as citizens to express our opinions to each other. I believe I was exercising this right.
  • MISTAKE IN JUDGMENT, NOT ETHICS: My mistake here was one of judgment—not ethics. I didn’t realize posting under a screen name in an online community such as Yahoo! would be so controversial and would cause so many people to be upset. That was a mistake in judgment on my part and one that I deeply regret because it caused so much negative media attention about me and Whole Foods Market.
  • BECOMING A PUBLIC FIGURE: Perhaps part of the problem here is that when I first started participating in these Yahoo! online communities back in 1998, Whole Foods Market was only 15 percent as large as we are today. We had yet to open any stores in New York City and we weren’t taken particularly seriously by most of our competitors or the media. Whole Foods Market’s tremendous growth over the past 10 years hadn’t yet occurred. As the CEO of Whole Foods Market I was seldom interviewed and few people knew or cared who I was. I wasn’t a public figure and had no desire to become one. However, as Whole Foods Market continued to grow and as we opened large and exciting new stores around the United States, both the company and I became better and better known. At some point in the past 10 years I went from being a relatively unknown person to becoming a public figure. I regret not having the wisdom to recognize this fact until very recently.
  • WRONGLY ACCUSED OF MANIPULATING OATS STOCK PRICE: It was infuriating to be accused of trying to manipulate Wild Oats' stock price downward so that Whole Foods Market could buy it more cheaply. This is malicious speculation and an accusation with no basis in fact. My last Yahoo! post occurred in August 2006, and Whole Foods Market did not begin talking to Wild Oats about a buyout until January 2007—a five-month gap. In addition, almost all of my posts that were critical of Wild Oats were made when its stock was far lower than the $18.50 per share Whole Foods Market paid for it. When I posted as rahodeb, was I trying to “hurt Wild Oats financially or otherwise?” Of course not! The question assumes that someone named rahodeb posting on an online message board could actually hurt Wild Oats if he wanted to. How could rahodeb possibly hurt Wild Oats on a digital message board? The answer is obvious: rahodeb couldn’t.
  • PUMPING UP WFMI? NO: Some have asked if my intention was to inflate Whole Foods Market’s stock price. Think about this: how would rahodeb be able to inflate Whole Foods Market’s stock price even if he wanted to? I was just one anonymous poster amongst hundreds at any particular time. Rahodeb had no authority or power to do anything in the real world, including inflating Whole Foods Market’s stock price. If I had posted as John Mackey then I might have been taken more seriously by the rest of the community, but I never posted as John Mackey or as the CEO of Whole Foods Market, and the other participants didn’t know who I was. The fact is that rahodeb was just another enthusiastic Whole Foods Market “cheerleader” at Yahoo! and consequently few people took him very seriously. Heck, rahodeb didn’t take himself very seriously either. It is quite amazing to me that rahodeb was taken so seriously by so many people when the media broke the story, especially people who had not taken the time to read what rahodeb actually posted.

KEY LEARNINGS I’ve learned many things from these events. The primary lesson I've learned is that because of Whole Foods Market's success, I have become a public figure. My personal and work lives are now closely connected—and impact one another. Anything I say or do is now at risk of showing up on the front page of a national daily newspaper and therefore, I need to be much more conscious about the implications of everything that I say or do in all situations.

 

MOVING ON I wish to apologize to all the stakeholders of Whole Foods Market—customers, Team Members, investors, suppliers, and our communities. I am truly sorry that all this has happened and put a negative spotlight on our company. If I could get a “do over” on this one, I certainly would choose not to have ever participated in the Yahoo! online financial communities. Unfortunately, I cannot undo the past. I can only learn the many valuable lessons that are here for me to learn and try to do better in the future. Thanks to all of you who have continued to support me and Whole Foods Market. I'm excited about what the next few years will bring as we fully integrate the Wild Oats stores and Team Members into Whole Foods Market, and expand our stores and our mission into additional communities while continuing to satisfy and delight our current customers.

Category: ftc, merger, wildoats

 

90 Comments

Comments

Maureen says ...
Dear Mr. Mackey, I applaud you!It's about time someone in your position speaks out!I completly agree with you! I have never shopped at your store, but now you have a new customer!
08/20/2009 12:54:14 AM CDT
Joe Collins says ...
Dear Mr. Mackey, I agree with you and am happy to hear from a CEO that has the courage to speak out about what goes on in the real world. Good Job. Joe C.
08/20/2009 10:02:50 PM CDT
Claire Sickler says ...
Thank you Mr. Mackey for speaking out. God Bless you & yours!!!!!! More needs to stand with you. How about putting a store closer to Prescott AZ??
08/21/2009 9:20:31 PM CDT
Pat Mullarkey says ...
So, how many of these back-slapping postings are people you employ? You've shown you can't be trusted. The worst part of this is that you have learned nothing. You are still rationalizing about unethical behavior and conflict of interest. If I remember rightly, you wrote what a great CEO you were under the assumed name. I have stopped shopping at Whole Foods because of your duplicity.
08/23/2009 5:02:03 PM CDT
abraham james says ...
Its great that someone in your position can take a stand on real health issues.Hilary Clinton,I believe had an opportunity in the early years of Bill's tenure to change the so called health paradigm for the world.It was obviously to dificult.As an Australian who spent a week in New york in April and I visited Whole Foods in Houston st everyday.How lucky are you Americans to have WHOLEFOODS?Please come to AUSSIE.Please understand that John is entitled to his opinion as we all are and that WHOLEFOODS is one of Americas greatest contributions..
08/25/2009 4:11:08 AM CDT
Brandon Pigott says ...
John, Every one is entitled to express their beliefs, that's what made this country great! Once we let a group of people try to crush individual opinions, we all lose. My family shops at Whole Foods and will continue to do so. However, if the Board decides to remove you or diminish your capacity in any way, We will drop Whole Foods, like a HOT ROCK, as our grocer of choice.
08/28/2009 12:54:38 PM CDT
Sue Brock says ...
We think Whole Foods CEO's comments are not aligned with the vision and mission of the company. They are short sighted and self-serving. I am a weekly customer of Whole Foods in MInneapolis and will not be patronizing the store any longer.
08/28/2009 3:06:52 PM CDT
denise says ...
You have a new customer -- me! I appreciate business owners who are fair to their workers, and to their customers. To have such good ethics, AND clear thinking give me cause to patrionize your establishment. I've checked out the Whole Foods closest to my home, and intend to shop their tomorrow. Continue to use the forum afforded you by virtue of your position to give voice to those of us who share your sentiments. Thanks!
08/28/2009 7:23:55 PM CDT
Michael Smith says ...
Mr. Mackey, I shopped at WF once several years ago at the invitation of a friend who worked at your Pasadena CA market. I was impressed and bought some hair care products -thought you needed a small junk food selection though- and I was pleased with the experience. However I never began to shop there: 1) tight budget 2) not big on the importance of the "Organic" thing 3) a convenient Vons with a banking outlet. After hearing your WSJ OP-Ed piece discussed on talk radio and then reading it on line (as if I ever cared to wonder about the WF CEO's personal opinion of Pelosi-Reid-Obama-Care) I learned that my assumptions would have been wrong! I was impressed with your description of how "big-corporate" WF offers Health Care choice to your employees, and even more with your courage to speak out at a pivotal moment for the future of the US of America. I don’t want your corporate OPTIONS (or mine) to be levered away from your employees by the wrongheaded actions of an increasingly intrusive federal government -with the hubris to think that a collection of Policy makers (most with a Law Degree to their credit) and the ensuing huge tangle of faceless bureaucrats, who tend think that they know what’s best for everyone in every situation. Thank you for entering the fray and speaking out on this important matter. I will be countering the attempts to boycott WF by sending a few shopping dollars your way and by voicing my support for you, for any who have ears to hear and eyes to see. Stand firm; you did the right thing in this case. There are real problems with the “health care system” that need to be addressed. You make several points that I think both Left & Right can agree on, and that would go along way towards improving the current troubled parts of the status-quo. However do not miss one of the underlying meanings of this debate; the struggle between the Left and the Right forces of our time. In my opinion, it is largely between the “Collective Statist’s” –whom mostly have right-hearted motives, and the “Liberty-Free Marketers” –whom often need a high profile example (like WF and others), demonstrating how the better can be accomplished when the “Head” has a “Heart” but is not ruled by it. Good intentions (i.e. bringing peace and “Utopia” to mankind in our time) have regularly led to increased human misery. While not perfect, Capitalism -sometimes with a code of ethics and morality in practice- has done massive good for the human condition. Why do many Europeans clamor for the simple things like Whole Foods, and why are most European governments and Canada moving away from Socialized Healthcare and towards increased individual choice? Profit motivated corporate innovation in the Health Care arena alone, has demonstratively produced truly amazing results of improved living standards (things that my grandparents would have never dreamed possible). The socialist leaning democracies and countless others all over the world benefit from (and even feed off of) free market “profit motivated” innovation... and we should move in a direction that many of those who have tested the theory are now abandoning? Moreover, where it is being tried in the States it’s found wanting and in need of major revamping, or even abandoning. That’s silly –even arrogant. In the vein of Austin Powers, “Yeah ‘compassionate’ capitalism.” Yeah Whole Foods! My Gratitude, M.S.
08/30/2009 12:38:48 PM CDT
TMJ says ...
We need more business people like yourself speaking out with alternative plans for good healthcare. Love your stand. Keep it up.
09/02/2009 10:27:27 AM CDT
Larry Huss says ...
I rarely shop at Whole Foods; however, when I heard of the planned boycott of Whole Foods because John Mackey dared to voice his objections to Obama's national healthcare plan, I plan to regularly - probably daily - shop Whole Foods. If there is a picket line, I intend to enter the store to buy products one at a time so that I can cross the picket line as often as possible. Good for you John Mackey and a pox on those who would seek to deny you and your company the right to be heard on any issue.
09/02/2009 12:28:29 PM CDT
Jim says ...
John Thanks for being a stand-up guy! I wish we could make you the Health Care representative for all US citizens that have been left out of this government take it or leave it attitude. The economy and the job market are in a shambles, and yet they want to spend trillions in to debt that has never been seen in any one's lifetime. Your points on health care reform makes since , yes they are the places that should be the starting points for discussion instead of ripping the heart out of the best health care system in the world with a few warts that could be reformed. I thank you for using your 1st amendment right to help all of us with your points of view..Obama did ask for other points of view, but it seems he doesn't know how to handle people that disagree with him, that isn't very presidential. I believe your employees are lucky to have you in charge. I haven't been to your store in a while because it's quite a distance, but because of you and your words of wisdom we and others will travel over 30 miles 1-way to shop @ least 2 times a month from now on. Keep up the great work and THANKS
09/02/2009 2:23:33 PM CDT
Dennis says ...
I support John and his ideas 100%. This country needs more people like him. He is offering excellent ideas to help this country. It is a shame that it takes a heroic effort to state something so obvious. I would shop at Whole Foods for everything if I had the opportunity - the nearest store is 150 miles form home. However, I can recommend the store and products to everyone who cares to listen.
10/21/2009 9:23:20 AM CDT
Willie says ...
Thank you, John, for putting your common sense ideas regarding health care reform out there.
01/03/2010 11:03:21 PM CST
Chris K says ...
Is it necessary to identify yourself every time when defending you own company? Americans love it when CEO's go out into the field and work with their employees undercover. The CEO's get valuable information about their company they could not get if their identity was not hidden. Many americans wish their upper management cared enough about the "little guys" at the company to take this initiative. John's actions are inspiring and some of you believe he may have made a mistake or two in this blogging, however, I don't know anyone who does not make a mistake ever. I encourage all of us to do exactly what John has done; explain his opinions & actions and learn from mistakes he agrees he has done or others believe he has done. I love that John is trying to understand the consumer better and defend his own company in a matter that does not throw his public name around. Unfortunately, the bashing John has received will most likely force John to hide more and be less accessible. Ironically, this is something most "little guys" hate about such public figures. I feel what John has done is ethical, because I don't believe a random unknown user could influence the market place sooo much. If it did, then I suggest we should all take our selfish-selves and start blogging (under a random name of course). John, please keep finding new and exciting ways to speak to your customer. Regards, Chris K
01/03/2011 4:12:56 PM CST

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