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Mike says ...
<p>I agree with your comments and will drive 50 miles to your nearest store to shop in support of your courage and candor.</p>
08/14/2009 5:04:00 PM CDT
GeorgiAnne says ...
<p>Mr. Mackey, Good grief, a common sense approach to a problem and you are being vilified and boycotted. I don't understand how anyone could find anything offensive in your Wall Street Journal op-ed. I intend to shop even more frequently at Whole Foods as a result of your op-ed piece.</p>
08/14/2009 5:04:00 PM CDT
Kristi says ...
<p>I, for one, will gladly continue shopping at Whole Foods. In fact, your piece made me even HAPPIER to shop there! (Great Thatcher quote, btw)</p>
08/14/2009 5:05:00 PM CDT
Bryan says ...
<p><strong>personal attack </strong>Mr. Mackey,</p> <p>First off, let me say that I admire your chutzpah. You take to the pages of the Wall Street Journal to pen an op-ed that is both factually incorrect and tone-deaf to the vast majority of your customers. </p> <p>Did you have no idea this would happen?</p> <p>Your points have been rebutted frequently throughout the web (I'd suggest a Google search to show what some of the more cogent arguments contra your libertarian 'deregulation' scheme, so that I don't have to take up space in your comments rebutting your ignorance).</p> <p>Our nation is 37th in the world in infant mortality. We are the only industrialized nation without some form of government-mandated health care. Are you proud of that? I am ashamed of the fact that we spend twice as much as any other country and yet our health care results are far below the rest of the world (even the UK and Canada, which you belittle to your detriment).</p> <p>I can honestly say that I will never set foot in a Whole Foods Market again as long as your unfeeling, selfish, uninformed, disingenuous carcass is heading this company. And I'll feel so much better for it.</p>
08/14/2009 5:06:00 PM CDT
bob kiely says ...
<p>I loved his article. It was the best article on health care that I've read; everyone should read it.</p>
08/14/2009 5:06:00 PM CDT
JoelB says ...
<p>Mr. Mackey'</p> <p>Your editorial is the latest in a series of comments I've heard from/read by you that impressed me favorably. Your stated views and your corporate goals always seem to me to reflect a social consciousness rooted in an understanding of history, and a knowledge of the importance of freedom in society.</p> <p>In particular, I worry about the current debate on Health Care in America'a debate that is ill-served by the non-informative drivel being released by politicians from both of the major parties, and a media that would rather report arguments than provide facts. Your editorial places itself in a select group by providing some clear ideas for consideration.</p> <p>Your column will undoubtedly get you both brickbats and applause'from me you get the latter. And because I believe that free enterprise _can_ be used to shape society for the good of all, I vote with my dollar when I can: I will definitely shop at WF more often. Thanks for writing the column!</p>
08/14/2009 5:07:00 PM CDT
Barry Mulling says ...
<p>'All countries with socialized medicine ration health care by forcing their citizens to wait in lines to receive scarce and expensive treatments. '</p> <p>If you don't have money in the US, you can go ahead and die in a ditch. That's our system. A for-profit health care system is implicitly rationing, and if you don't have money you don't get a ration. That's morally wrong, and people who defend this arrangement are on the wrong side of history. </p> <p>Our grandchildren will look back on the people who defend this system the same way they look back on segregationists and those who opposed women's suffrage. It's basic human progress that they're fighting against, and it's really sickening that we've let the for-profit system destroy so many people.</p>
08/14/2009 5:08:00 PM CDT
Chaoslillith says ...
<p>Health care is not just for cancer and fatal illnesses!!!</p> <p>Insurance or Universal Health Care is not just for terminal illnesses or obesity. </p> <p>It's for hings that have nothing to do with diet like some forms of diabetes, Multiple Sclerosis, Krohn's Disease, Alzheimers's, broken bones, strep throat, the flu, ear infections, tonsillectomies,car accidents etc. etc. etc. etc.</p> <p>Apparently you could care less about people who get sick or autoimmune disorders or just general things that can happen in life.</p>
08/14/2009 5:09:00 PM CDT
Leigh says ...
<p>Before you continue to sing the praises of HDHP/HSAs, you may want to consider that a significant portion of Americans who are under- or uninsured are low-income and/or elderly. More than half of those without insurance earn so little that they have no tax liability, meaning they don't see a benefit from contributing pre-tax or nontaxable dollars to an HSA.</p> <p>The higher the burden of cost-sharing, the more likely people are to delay seeking care, or to not seek it at all, and experience poorer health outcomes. As you might imagine, this is more expensive for society to treat.</p> <p>See this for more: <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20101020182743/http://www.kff.org/uninsured/7568.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.kff.org/uninsured/7568.cfm</a></p> <p>Consider that many of the employees at Whole Foods may fall into the 'low-income' bracket. Your desire discourage unnecessary spending on health care (which would be what, exactly?) by requiring them to meet an absurdly high deductible ' and what counts toward that deductible? do prescriptions? Wellness checks? ' before their insurance kicks in is patronizing, cynical and selfish. </p> <p>I will not be shopping at Whole Foods any longer.</p>
08/14/2009 5:09:00 PM CDT
Mona C says ...
<p>Thank you for your op-ed piece. You have stated very clearly what many of us believe is a better approach than the current bill. </p> <p>We are once-a-month WF shoppers due to geographical distance ' may have to go more often now. Our local store offers many products not available elsewhere, and with special dietary needs, we appreciate it.</p> <p>By the way, we have had a Health Savings Account through work for the past 2 years, with a high deductible and low premiums, and we love it so far. The nice thing is that we get to keep our money that we don't use.</p> <p>Again, thanks for not being afraid to be a voice of reason in this important debate.</p>
08/14/2009 5:11:00 PM CDT
mmmm'kay says ...
<p>As an American living in Canada, I can safely tell you that you are full of it. My care and that of my family here has been excellent, timely, and has not caused a financial hardship. I can also tell you that Canadians are aghast and disgusted when they hear about the inhumane private medical system in the US. </p> <p>Yeah, deregulate the insurance scam industry some more ' that worked out GREAT for banking. </p> <p>Frankly it's not necessarily your views on healthcare but rather your obvious contempt for people who are not vegetarian CEO's who can afford to shop at your rip-off of a grocery store that is making me stay away from your Vancouver area stores. Your loathing of the very people who made you wealthy couldn't be more clear. As far as I'm concerned the sooner you and your ideological brethren 'Go Galt', the better off we'll all be. </p> <p>Your selfishness is disgusting. And nice try at changing the subject. This boycott is on no matter how much you now try to blame innocent Americans for their own illness.</p>
08/14/2009 5:11:00 PM CDT
Ben says ...
<p>I think you're misrepresenting not only what is being proposed by congress but also the health care systems of other countries (UK &amp; Canada). Health care in industrialized countries that have some form of socialized insurance or direct care have better overall care than and higher satisfaction with their systems among their population than we have in the US. What you are proposing is radical, has never been done in any other country, and won't end up covering everyone. It is experimenting with peoples' lives. </p> <p>It's good that you pointed out that lifestyle choices drive health care costs. But do you think that HMOs will be any more interested in preventative care when there are millions of dollars to be made on treating illnesses? Do you think a government bureaucrat with an actuary table in his hand is any worse than an HMO analyst with an actuary table in his hand? </p> <p>Also, you're essentially saying that rich people deserve to live and poor people deserve to die or at least that the rich deserve better care. </p> <p>But money seems to be all that really matters to you, as your past actions have proven.</p>
08/14/2009 5:14:00 PM CDT
K Loveland says ...
<p>My niece has scoliosis, has a steel rod in her back to keep it straight. This has nothing to due with diet or exercise, she did ballet, danced and ice skating as a child so her posture was always good. She had the rod installed at the age of 15 I believe, she has NOTHING ELSE PHYSICALLY WRONG WITH HER. She cannot get ANY insurance because it is a preexisting condition. She would not be able to get an HSA HDHP even because no insurance company would have her. </p> <p>Your ideas are useless for people like her.</p>
08/14/2009 5:14:00 PM CDT
dave anthony says ...
<p>Yeah, you lost me.</p> <p>There are other places to shop</p>
08/14/2009 5:16:00 PM CDT
boadicea says ...
<p>You wrote as the CEO of a company and allowed your brand to be used as part of that.</p> <p><i>Fidiciary Duty Fail.</i></p> <p>Then when the reaction hit your website you had all dissenting threads deleted.</p> <p><i>Civil Debate Fail</i></p> <p>You run a high end retail business, and just gave your base customers a reason to explore other available options from CSAs to the competitors who offer similar products at lower prices.</p> <p><i>Epic Management Fail</i></p> <p>It's gonna take a lot more than a blog post to walk this back-and I'll be interested to note if and how long this comment stays posted.</p>
08/14/2009 5:16:00 PM CDT
Larry White says ...
<p>This formerly very loyal Whole Foods customer will not shop there again as long as Mr. Mackey opposes the Obama health care reform plan.</p>
08/14/2009 5:17:00 PM CDT
Crashwatcher says ...
<p>There are a couple of problems with your current perspective. Despite praising yourself for offering health care plans for your employees, there are numerous tax advantage for you to offer a tax qualified plan. There are also major financial incentives for you to shift your employees into high deductible health care plans as that are purely profit motivated move. </p> <p>Also, why are you afraid of competition in the health care market. Would it not provide you as an employer the opportunity to offer lower cost higher quality products? I am also fairly certain you pay yourself in a stock bonus plan that allows you to pay a far lower income tax rate than your employees? How very American of you John. Pay less taxes, shift more cost to your employees, and tell them to buy your products.</p> <p>-Crashwatcher</p>
08/14/2009 5:18:00 PM CDT
Lisa says ...
<p>I have to say that I agree with your 8 points wholeheartedly. Personally, I have never really understood our health care system in the US. I think this is also true for many people and a contributing cause to all of this anger and confusion. I do know that this is a behemoth issue that will not be fixed/changed overnight. I think the reform needs to take place in stages and over a four year period.If we take it one piece at a time I think people will calm down. I'm just flabbergasted over the panic, anger, hatred and fear that I'm seeing.</p>
08/14/2009 5:20:00 PM CDT
kcox says ...
<p>I've run companies based in Canada and companies based in the US. All I can say is that our Canadian employees (with a single payor system) got better coverage and we paid less than for US employees. The simple-minded, misinformed baloney promoted by John Mackey and his right wing allies certainly help fill his pockets, but doesn't do anything for his employees or customers. Personally, count me as a once loyal customer that now has taken his business elsewhere.</p>
08/14/2009 5:20:00 PM CDT
FLORIDA MOM says ...
<p>I initially shopped at the Whole Foods here in Tampa when it first opened and quit doing that about a year ago. After this article I am going this weekend! Kudos to you what a great American Patriot you are! There are many just like you down here in Florida. Behind you all way!</p>
08/14/2009 5:21:00 PM CDT
Bryan says ...
<p><strong>Off topic. </strong> Care to discuss why you oppose unions so much, Mr. Mackey? Or how many of the commenters on this blog post are sockpuppets, given your past history of such on yahoo! business discussion boards? Or how you can allow employees to vote on health care choices without being in violation of NLRB guidelines?</p>
08/14/2009 5:22:00 PM CDT
lj says ...
<p>Too little, too late. Even if this explanation ('WSJ edited me') satisfied me, I have since discovered other things about you, your politics and your business ethics that I dislike. Your company will have to do without the $175 we've been spending weekly at your stores for the past several years.</p>
08/14/2009 5:23:00 PM CDT
Interesting says ...
<p>I hope you do read this, cause you argument against healthcare being a right is extremely weak. Especially when you compare it to food and shelter not being rights.</p> <p>So what are inalienable rights? Among them, the right to bear arms. Should carrying weapons be more of a right than being given healthcare? I mean, if you aren't healthy food and shelter aren't really going to help. How can one work if they are sick or severely debilitated. By your logic, you would not have the right to protect yourself if you are sick.</p> <p>While I agree that people should be proactive and a number of your other points, I think you are being not willing to look outside of the box. Just because Canada and many places in europe have fully functioning healthcare systems with 'long lines' that 'equate to rationing' (have you been to some of your stores sir? are you rationing the amount of people to go in or it it just because you provide a good service that people line up?) doesn't mean that the system we choose has to function like that.</p> <p>Also, your example of what Whole Foods does, does not constitute what other people should do, as your organization is not fully representative of the types of business that exist out there (remember, more people are employed in small businesses, not large ones).</p> <p>Good Luck.</p>
08/14/2009 5:24:00 PM CDT
boadicea says ...
<p>BTW, a friend refuted your points pretty thoroughly <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20101020182743/http://www.texaskaos.com/diary/6089/refuting-the-whole-foods-alternative-to-obamacare" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p> <p>Just in case you are interested in possibly learning instead of just promoting debunked talking points.</p>
08/14/2009 5:25:00 PM CDT
B says ...
<p>I applaud you for making your opinion known. There are many who have not read this bill, that is over 1,000 pages, and includes provisions in it that would make our Founding Fathers roll over in their graves. This bill is on target to push the US into a socialized country and most of it's supporters have not truly read it. I don't understand why the hippies who have mainly supported Whole Foods and fought for individual freedoms in the 60's, now support stripping our freedoms away. You may have lost a lot of consumers, but my guess is that people like me will get behind you and shop there more. Thank you for your common sense!</p>
08/14/2009 5:25:00 PM CDT

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