Conscious Capitalism: Creating a New Paradigm for Business

Hi Everyone,


I've been very gratified and impressed with your responses to my dialogue exchange with Michael Pollan over the last six months. The following lengthy essay is something I have been working on for several months; the ideas have been gestating for many years. The topic is Conscious Capitalism and I encourage you to read this material with your mind open to the possibilities inherent in these ideas. The essay is long and it may take extended time and concentration on your part to read. However, I think the ideas I articulate here are important ideas and they deserve to be read by an intelligent and critical audience.


Some of you may be aware that I am in the middle of two book projects. The Whole Story will relate my business and life philosophies along with my version of the story of Whole Foods Market, the company I co-founded 28 years ago. The second book, The FLOW Papers, includes several of my essays on topics related to the purpose of FLOW, a not-for-profit group I co-founded with Michael Strong in 2003-see and The following essay will appear in both books in modified forms.


I want to offer every regular reader of my blog an opportunity to co-create these ideas with me. I'm very interested in your constructive feedback. Specifically, I want to know what you like about the essay and the ideas presented within. I would also like your well-considered suggestions on how to improve the essay. Would you be willing to spend a few hours with me while reading and critiquing the following? As you may be aware, I do actually read your responses and often answer specific postings. I would like to begin a pro-active discussion of the ideas presented in the Conscious Capitalism essay.


I believe in the power of healthy systems to disseminate new ideas quickly. The internet is a great system for supporting co-creation of projects, ideas, and social movements. I invite you to help me provide an excellent example of just how powerful a collaborative tool this social networking system can be to help change the world. If I get valuable feedback on this essay that challenges my thinking and helps improve my presentation of the ideas via my blog, then I anticipate doing the same thing on all the other non-narrative chapters I'm writing for the book. I anticipate placing an additional chapter on the blog about every 3 to 4 weeks until my book is finished and ready for publication.


With love and in great anticipation of your helpful responses,



Conscious Capitalism: Creating a New Paradigm for Business

Do we need a new way to think about business, corporations, and capitalism for the 21st century? Do we need to create a new business paradigm? Corporations are probably the most influential institutions in the world today and yet many people do not believe that they can be trusted. Instead corporations are widely perceived as greedy, selfish, exploitative, uncaring-and interested only in maximizing profits. In the early years of the 21st century, major ethical lapses on the part of big business came to light including scandals at Enron, Arthur Anderson, Tyco, the New York Stock Exchange, WorldCom, Mutual Funds, and AIG. These scandals have all contributed to a growing distrust of business and further eroded public trust in large corporations in the United States.


Increasingly, many people believe there must be something wrong with both corporations and capitalism in the world today. The anti-globalization movement is primarily an anti-corporation movement. Many people have come to the conclusion that corporations want to dominate and control the world-in fact David Korten wrote an interesting book called When Corporations Rule the World. While many critics, including myself, take issue with Korten's assertions, the book does reflect this relatively common belief that corporations are slowly, steadily taking over the world. Since they are greedy, selfish, and uncaring, along this line of reasoning it follows that this corporate hegemony is not a good thing for the world. In short, corporations and capitalism are not generally in favor, and both have serious branding problems in the larger world today.


Our first theories of economics were developed during the Industrial Revolution. Prior to that, economics did not exist as a discipline. Economics was created as an explanatory response to the Industrial Revolution and initial economic models were based on industrial models of the economy. Although economic theory has evolved since Adam Smith wrote The Wealth of Nations in 1776, many economists continue using industrial and machine metaphors to explain how the economy works. Now that we are well into the post-industrial Information Age, these metaphors have become outdated and mislead our thinking about business. For example, recall the trinity of labor, land, and capital as "factors of production", and therefore as merely a means to the end of efficiency and profits. According to this model, business operates like a machine—various amounts of capital, labor, and land are inputted at the start, and spitting out on the other side of that machine are the profits. According to this model, the purpose of business, as most economists see it, is to transform factors of production into profit for the benefit of the investors.


The world has become much more complex since those simple machine metaphors were first developed. Unfortunately, current business thinking does not easily grasp systems interdependencies, and therefore often lacks ecological consciousness or a sense of responsibility for other constituencies, or other stakeholders, besides investors. Large corporations are still grounded in a theoretical model that does not acknowledge the complex interdependencies of all of the various constituencies. For business to reach its fullest potential in the 21st century, we will need to create a new business paradigm that moves beyond simplistic machine/industrial models to those that embrace the complex interdependencies of multiple constituencies. This is the reality in which corporations exist today and our economic and business theories need to evolve to reflect this truth.


I intend to raise several questions about current business thinking and practice in this chapter. Because my experience as co-founder and CEO of Whole Foods Market is in the retail grocery business, many of my examples, especially of new business thinking, will feature innovations and standard operating procedures at my own company. I encourage you to use your creative imagination to see the possibilities that exist for current business to escape outdated thinking and action, and build upon the Whole Foods Market model in future businesses youmay create as part of a new paradigm.


Voluntary Exchange

In a capitalistic market economy business is ultimately based on voluntary exchange; all the main constituencies of a business (such as customers, employees, suppliers, and investors) voluntarily exchange with the business to create value for themselves and for others. No constituency is coerced to exchange against their will. This voluntary exchange for mutual benefit is the ethical foundation of business (and capitalism). For example, if customers are unhappy with the prices, the services, or the selection of my business, Whole Foods Market, they are free to shop at another competitor. If our team members are unhappy with their wages and benefits, or the working conditions, they are free to seek a job with a different firm that provides more of what they seek. If investors in a public corporation such as Whole Foods Market are unhappy with the economic returns being generated, they are free to sell their shares and invest their money in some other alternative. If suppliers want better terms or different product placement than we are willing to give they are free to seek alternative outlets to sell their products. All the constituents therefore exchange voluntarily for mutual benefit, and they are free to exit the relationship whenever they wish. This voluntary exchange for mutual benefit creates the ethical foundation of business and that is why business is ultimately justified to rightfully exist within a society. This ethical foundation of business doesn't necessarily mean that everything any particular business does is always ethical, but only that voluntary exchange for mutual benefit is itself an ethical process. A business is still expected to behave ethically in its voluntary exchanges (not lie, steal, or cheat) and to be responsible for any negative impacts it may create (for example, environmental pollution).


The Purpose of Business

Have you ever asked yourself what is the purpose of a business? It is an interesting question that most business people never ask themselves. If you think about it, what is the purpose of a doctor or hospital? Is their purpose to maximize profits? Well, this is certainly not the purpose that they teach in medical schools or most doctors advocate. The doctor's purpose is to help heal sick people. What about the purpose of the teacher or the school? Do they exist maximize profits? No of course not. Their primary purpose is to educate the young and prepare them to live successful lives in society. What about the purpose of lawyers or law courts? All lawyer jokes aside, the purpose of a lawyer would be to pursue justice and our law courts exist to settle disputes in our society and to bring wrongdoers to justice. All of the other professions put an emphasis on the public good and have purposes beyond self-interest. Why doesn't business?


What then is the purpose of business and who has the right to define it? Professional economists routinely assume and teach that the purpose of business is to maximize profits for the investors. However, they seldom offer arguments to support this point of view beyond asserting that the business is owned by its investors who have a legal right to hire and fire the management (through the Board of Directors they elect) and also have a legal claim on the residual profits of the business. Both of these assertions are true, but these legal rights do not necessarily equate to defining the purpose of a business—why it exists and what its purpose and goals are. In most cases the original purpose of a business is decided prior to any capital being received from investors. While the capital from investors is obviously very important to any business, there is one participant in business who has the right to define what the purpose(s) of the business will be in the world—the entrepreneur who creates the business in the first place. Entrepreneurs create a company, bring all the so called "factors of production" together, and coordinate them into a viable business. Entrepreneurs set the company strategy and negotiate the terms of trade with all of the voluntarily cooperating stakeholders—including the investors. At Whole Foods we recruited our original investors and they freely invested with the understanding that Whole Foods had other purposes besides maximizing profits. Entrepreneurs discover and/or create the purpose of a business—not investors, or politicians, or lawyers, or economists.


I've known many entrepreneurs in my life, and with only a few exceptions most did not create their business primarily to maximize profits. Of course they wanted to make money, but profit was just one of the reasons they started their business. It may be that they were unable to work for anybody else, have strong authority issues, and therefore need to be their own boss. Or they need to be in charge of their own enterprise because that is how they get their sense of self-worth, value, and self-esteem. It could be that they have something to prove to their parents, siblings, or their friends and creating a successful business will exorcise unconscious childhood demons. It could be that they are very creative individuals who have ideas that they want to see tested in reality to see whether or not they work. It could be that they are idealists and want to make the world a better place, and their primary motivation for creating their business is to improve the world. It could be that the entrepreneurs create their business for the sheer fun of it. There are many, many reasons why people create businesses, and while I cannot deny that there are certain entrepreneurs who create their business primarily to maximize profits, I would say that in my life experience they are definitely a minority.


The founding entrepreneurs determine the initial purpose of their business, but eventually these entrepreneurs will retire or leave the businesses that they created. Does the original purpose that the founding entrepreneurs established remain in perpetuity or can it evolve over time? I believe the purpose of any business can evolve over time. This evolution of purpose is the result of the dynamic interaction of the various interdependent stakeholders with each other and with the business itself. Customers, employees, investors, suppliers, and the community all influence business purpose over time. While the investors will have the ultimate legal claim on the residual profits of the business, the purpose of the business itself evolves over time through the co-creation of the interdependent stakeholders. This is a fascinating discovery I've made about Whole Foods Market during the previous 28 years. Whole Foods Market's co-founders created the original purpose of the company in 1980, but the interdependent stakeholders have evolved it over the years. We started with a few simple ideals and core values for the company and then created very simple business structures to help fulfill those ideals. However, over time as the company grew a process of self-organization took place and layers of organizational complexity evolved year after year after year to fulfill the original core values. As the original core values were expressed over time, deeper meanings of those core values were discovered and/or created by the interdependent stakeholders. Whole Foods Market's purpose has become deeper, richer, and more complex as it has evolved over the years.


The "myth" that the ultimate purpose of business is always to maximize profits for the investors originated with the Industrial Revolution's earliest economists and is an idea that has remained with us ever since. How did this happen? The classical economists formulated their theories by observing and describing the behavior of various entrepreneurs and their businesses. They observed correctly that successful businesses were always profitable and that, indeed, the entrepreneurs who organized and operated these successful businesses always sought to make profits. Businesses that were not profitable did not survive for very long in a competitive marketplace because profits are essential to the long-term survival and flourishing of all businesses. Without profits entrepreneurs will not be able to invest the necessary capital to replace their depreciating buildings and equipment and won't be able to make the necessary investments to adapt to the always evolving and competitive marketplace. The need for profit is universal for all businesses in a healthy market economy.


Unfortunately, early economists went far beyond merely describing how entrepreneurs always seek profits as an important goal, to concluding that maximizing profits is the only important goal of business. Actually they went even further; the economists soon concluded that maximizing profits is the only goal they should seek. The classical economists went from describing the behavior in which they observed successful entrepreneurs engage while operating their businesses, to prescribing that behavior as the correct behavior that all entrepreneurs should always engage in all of the time. How did they come to this conclusion? I can only speculate here.


One possibility is that the classical economists became enchanted with the efficiency and the productivity of the industrial enterprises that they studied. Industrial and machine metaphors became the primary metaphors used to explain how the world really worked since this reflected the Newtonian scientific world-view that came to dominate the consciousness of the age. Every business was seen as a type of machine with various inputs and profits being the output. Profits from business became the primary capital that investors and entrepreneurs used to not only upgrade and improve existing enterprises, but also the capital used to begin new enterprises. The progress of the larger economy was dependent upon this capital accumulation, through the profits of enterprise being saved and reinvested.


In the United States today, we take for granted the availability of large pools of capital to invest in new businesses because our economy has been producing them for more than 250 years. However, at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution capital was quite scarce. The ability of successful enterprises to accumulate profits and the redirection of accumulated capital by the entrepreneurs and investors into new promising opportunities was largely unprecedented in history. Therefore it isn't too surprising that classical economists became enamored with the importance of profits, because profits had historically been very rare and they were essential to the continued improvement and progress of society. Industrial Age entrepreneurs had discovered a "perpetual motion machine"—enterprises organized to maximize profits, and through the reinvestment of these profits, the promise of indefinite continued growth.


Great Companies Have Great Purposes

If most entrepreneurs don't create their businesses for the primary purpose of maximizing profits, then what are their primary goals? The answer to this question varies tremendously from business to business—there are potentially as many different purposes for businesses as there are businesses. Entrepreneurs create their businesses for a diversity of reasons. However, I believe that most of the greatest companies in the world also have great purposes which were discovered and/or created by their original founders and which still remain at the core of their business models. Having a deeper, more transcendent purpose is highly energizing for all of the various interdependent stakeholders, including the customers, employees, investors, suppliers, and the larger communities in which the business participates. While these deeper, more transcendent purposes have unique expressions at each business they also can be grouped into certain well known and timeless categories. Philosophy dates back to Plato the timeless ideals of "The Good", "The True", and "The Beautiful" that humanity has been seeking to create, discover, and express for thousands of years. If we add the ideal of "The Heroic" to the above three we have the framework of higher ideals which most great businesses seek to express in some form or fashion. The following examples present these four ideals as created and expressed by great businesses in the world today.


The first great purpose that great businesses express is "The Good". The most common way this ideal manifests in business is through "Service to others". Authentic service needs to be based on genuine empathy towards the needs and desires of other people. Genuine empathy leads to the development, growth, and expression of love, care, and compassion. Great businesses dedicated to the great purpose of "Service to others" also develop methods to grow the emotional intelligence of their organizations, an emotional intelligence that nourishes and encourages love, care, and compassion towards customers, employees, and the larger community. While any category of business can be motivated by the deeper purpose of "Service to others", we find businesses that primarily depend upon the goodwill of their customers to be the most likely to express this particular deeper purpose and to devote themselves to it wholeheartedly. Some of the great businesses that best express the great purpose of "Service to others" include Southwest Airlines, Jet Blue, Wegmans, Commerce Bank, Nordstroms, REI, and The Container Store—all retailers and service businesses. Whole Foods Market also aspires to express the great ideal of "Service to others" as its primary purpose. Devotion to "Service to others" is a deeply motivating purpose that provides tremendous emotional fulfillment to individuals who truly embrace this ideal.


The second great purpose that animates great businesses is "The True"—the "excitement of discovery and the pursuit of truth". How very exciting it is to discover what no one has ever discovered before; to learn what has never before been known; to create a product or service that has never before existed and that advances the well-being of humanity! This great purpose is at the core of some of the most creative and dynamic companies in the world today. Google, Intel, Genentech, Amgen, and Medtronic are all examples of great companies motivated by the "excitement of discovery and the pursuit of truth". All these companies have greatly benefited humanity through their successful fulfillment of this great purpose.


The third great purpose that we find at the core of great businesses is "The Beautiful", which can best be expressed in business through the search for "excellence and the quest for perfection". A company that expresses beauty in the world enriches our lives in numerous ways. While we more commonly experience "The Beautiful" through the work of individual creative artists in music, painting, film, and artisanal crafts, we can also see it expressed through certain special companies who have tapped into this powerful purpose as they pursue perfection in their chosen endeavor. Some great companies who express this purpose include Apple, Berkshire Hathaway, and Four Seasons Hotels. True excellence expresses beauty in unique and inspiring ways that make our lives more enjoyable.


The fourth great purpose that inspires many great businesses is "The Heroic"— changing and improving the world through heroic efforts. The heroic business is motivated by the desire to change the world, not necessarily through "service to others" or through "discovery and the pursuit of truth", or through "the quest for perfection" (all three motivations that can have definite "heroic" impulses), but through the powerful promethean desire to really change things—to truly make the world better, to solve what appear to be insoluble problems, to do the really courageous thing even when it is very risky, and to achieve what others say is impossible.


The Ford Motor Company was once a heroic enterprise when Henry Ford first created it. Henry Ford truly changed the world in the early part of the 20th century. Microsoft changed the world in the later half of the 20th century, and so now will Bill Gates' foundation as it seeks to solve many of the world's major health problems from AIDS to malaria. One of the best examples of a truly heroic enterprise is the Grameen Bank in Bangladesh begun by Muhammed Yunus. His heroic dedication to ending poverty in Bangladesh and throughout the world resulted his winning the 2006 Nobel Peace prize. I recommend reading his book Banker to the Poor for an inspiring tale of heroic enterprise. Most heroic enterprises are begun by charismatic, heroic entrepreneurs and the organization's biggest challenge is to successfully institutionalize the heroic purpose after the founding entrepreneur dies or moves on. Very few heroic enterprises have been able to do this over the long-term.


I recommend two books that present the importance of business purpose in great detail are Built to Last by Jim Collins and Jerry Porras, and Purpose: The Starting Point of Great Companies by Nikos Mourkogiannis. I have especially drawn on Mourkogiannis's ideas for this section and heartily recommend his book.


The Paradox of Profits

My thesis about business having important purposes besides maximizing profits should not be mistaken for hostility toward profit, however. I believe I know something about maximizing profits and creating shareholder value. When I co-founded Whole Foods Market in 1978, we began with $45,000 in capital; we only had $250,000 in sales our first year. In 2006, Whole Foods Market had sales of more than $5.6 billion, with net profits of more than $200 million, and a market capitalization over $8 billion. Profits are one of the most important goals of any successful business and the investors are one of the most important constituencies of the business. Paradoxically, the best way to maximize profits over the long-term is to not make them the primary goal of the business.


I will use an analogy to explain the best way to create long-term profits. The analogy is "happiness" because in my life experience happiness is best experienced by not aiming for it directly. A person who focuses their life energies strictly on striving for their own self-interest and personal happiness is often someone who is also a narcissist, someone who is self-involved and obsessed with their own ego gratification. Ironically, chances are good that they won't actually achieve their goal of happiness pursuing it in this way. In my experience, happiness is a by-product of other things; happiness comes from having a strong sense of purpose, meaningful work, good friends, good health, learning and growing, loving relationships with many people, and helping other people to flourish in living their lives.


If we have a strong sense of purpose, good friends, loving relationships, meaningful work, and good health it's very likely that we will also quite frequently experience happiness in our lives. Yet, happiness is a by-product of pursuing those other goals and I think that analogy applies to business as well. In my business experience, profits are best achieved by not making them the primary goal of the business. Rather, long-term profits are the result of having a deeper business purpose, great products, customer satisfaction, employee happiness, excellent suppliers, community and environmental responsibility—these are the keys to maximizing long-term profits. The paradox of profits is that, like happiness, they are best achieved by not aiming directly for them.


Long-term profits are maximized by not making them the primary goal. A business is best not thought of as a machine with various factors of production working in tandem to maximize profits. A business model more in touch with our complex, post-modern, information-rich world is a complex self-adaptive system of interdependent constituencies. Management's role is to optimize the health and value of the entire complex, evolving, and self-adaptive system. All of the various constituencies connect together and affect one another. If we optimize the health and value of the entire interdependent system and the well-being of all the major constituencies, the end result will also be the highest long-term profits for the investors as well.


Conversely, if a business seeks only to maximize profits to ensure shareholder value and does not attend to the health of the entire system, short-term profits may indeed result, perhaps lasting many years (depending upon how well its competitor companies are managed). However, neglecting or abusing the other constituencies in the interdependent business system will eventually create negative feedback loops that will end up harming the long-term interests of the investors and shareholders, resulting in sub-optimization of the entire system. Without consistent customer satisfaction, employee happiness and commitment, and community support, the short-term profits will probably prove to be unsustainable over the long-term (assuming its competitors manage their businesses to create value for all of their stakeholders).


The most common objection to the above argument is that several thousands of businesses are highly profitable that are not actively managed to optimize the value for all of the stakeholders. Instead they put the interests of their investors first and they are also highly profitable. Doesn't this disprove my argument? No, because most businesses are simply competing against other similar businesses that are organized and managed with the same overall values and goals—maximizing profits. The real question is, how does a traditional profit-centered business fare when it competes against a stakeholder-centered business? The only study I know that tries to answer this question is Firms of Endearment: the Pursuit of Purpose and Profit by David Wolfe, Rajendra Sisodia, and Jagdish Sheth (2007 by Wharton School Publishing). I highly recommend this as one of the best business books I've yet read. The authors identify 30 companies that are managed to optimize total stakeholder value instead of focusing strictly on profits and track long-term stock performance of those that are publicly traded compared to the S&P 5001. The chart below shows this comparison.

As the chart above indicates, companies that are managed to create value for all of their stakeholders have had extraordinarily high stock market returns both over the short-term and the long-term. This is no accident in my opinion. Rather it is the result of all 30 firms creating a superior business model-the business model that I believe will become the dominant business model of the 21st century.


Stockholders Maintain Legal Contro

l Optimizing value for all the interdependent stakeholders does not mean, however, a loss of legal control of the business for the investors. The owners/investors must legally control the business to prevent their exploitation by management and by the other stakeholders. However, the owners/investors do get paid last. What do I mean by this statement? The customers get paid first in their relationships with the business—in that they come in, find products or services they desire, purchase those products or services, receive those products or services fairly quickly, and often pay after the product or service has been rendered to them (for example, they eat before they have to pay at a café). Next, the employees render their services and get paid on a short-term, periodic basis. Whole Foods team members receive their pay every two weeks. The suppliers get paid, according to agreed up on terms and timeframes, and government taxes are remitted monthly and quarterly. The owners/investors are paid last, after everyone else has received goods, services, wages, or payment. The investors are entitled to whatever is left over, the residual profits. Because they are paid last, investors must have legal and fiduciary control of the business to prevent management or other stakeholders from exploiting them. Investors usually demand these conditions as a requirement for investing their capital in a business.


Management does have legal and fiduciary responsibility to maximize long-term shareholder value. However, the best way to maximize long-term shareholder value is to simultaneously optimize value for all the major constituencies, because they are all interdependent upon one another. This is one of the most important truths that I have learned while creating and growing Whole Foods Market. I cannot deny that occasionally there are conflicts of interest among constituencies, but in general a "harmony of interests" exists between the different constituencies, since they are so dependent on one another. The best way to maximize long-term shareholder value is to simultaneously optimize the value for all other constituencies. The health of the entire system is what really matters. The following graphic model illustrates one example of what I mean by the phrase "Conscious Capitalism".


The Whole Foods Business Model: Conscious Capitalism


Whole Foods Market's Conscious Capitalism

At the center of the Whole Foods Market business model illustrating holistic interdependence, you'll find our Core Values and Business Mission. Everything else extends from the purpose of the business reflected in the Core Values. Surrounding these central purposes are the various constituencies: customers, team members, suppliers, investors, and the community and environment. All are linked interdependently. Retail business provides a simple model to illustrate that management's role is to hire good people, train them well, and do whatever it takes to have those team members flourish and be happy while they are at work. The team member's job, at least at Whole Foods, is to satisfy and delight the customers. If we have happy customers, we will have a successful business and happy investors. Management helps the team members experience happiness, team members help the customers achieve happiness, the customers help the investors achieve happiness, and when some of the profits from the investors are reinvested in business you end up with a virtuous circle. I find myself continually astounded about how few business people understand these linkages. But market analysis increasingly illustrates that the businesses with a sole purpose of maximizing profits, in other words, those that do not understand that their profits are produced by an interdependent system of constituencies, are less successful over the long-term2.


Core Values

When businesses have a purpose beyond maximizing profits, that purpose is often expressed in the business mission. Core values constitute the guiding principles the business uses to realize its purpose. Whole Foods Market's core values very succinctly express what the purposes of the business are—purposes that include making profits but also include creating value for all of the major constituencies. I want to talk briefly about Whole Foods Market's Core Values. Our business talks and walks our values; we share them with our constituency groups, and invite feedback in the form of dialogs. The core values are: selling the highest quality natural and organic products available, satisfying and delighting our customers, supporting team member happiness and excellence, creating wealth, profits, and growth, and caring about our communities and environment.


Selling the Highest Quality Natural and Organic Products Available

Whole Foods Market is the leading retailer of natural and organic foods in the world;. We have developed strict and explicit quality standards, which we review regularly. We are very proud that we have helped improve the health, well-being and longevity of millions of people, and that we have proven that good health and pleasurable eating are compatible goals. Whole Foods Market resists the continuous trend toward the degradation of the quality of our food through the industrialization of food production. While this industrialization of our food supply has increased efficiency and lowered the cost of many food staples, both of which are beneficial to society, the process has also resulted in many negative unintended consequences. Many of the practices developed for the industrialized food system have resulted in lower nutritional quality for our food and negative environmental impacts such as pesticide contamination and concentrated animal waste products from CAFOs (Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations). We see this particularly in our animal foods production. Widespread factory farm production of our animal foods results in a tremendous cost to the well-being of the animals, along with severe, negative impacts to food safety and human health that are only recently becoming better known in the public arena. To combat this assault on multiple fronts, and to walk our core values, Whole Foods Market is very proud to be developing animal compassionate production standards, working in concert with concerned stakeholder groups.


Satisfying and Delighting our Customers

The customer is our most important constituency, since with no customers, we have no business. We are always aware that customers shop voluntarily—they are not coerced to shop. If they are unhappy with our business they will go trade someplace else. Because of the voluntary nature of business, we design our business model around the customer, who must be treated as an end and not as a means. What I mean by this statement is that the well-being of the customer must be seen as the most important goal overall and not as a means to profit for the business. In my experience, businesses that think of customers as means to the end of profit do not have the same commitment to service, empathy, and understanding of customers' well-being as the business that treats customers as ends instead of means. Customers are very intelligent! They know when someone is doing a sales job on them, and they know when someone genuinely cares about their well-being.


Supporting Team Member Happiness and Excellence

In order to treat the customers as an end we have empowered our team members to satisfy and delight our customers. New team members are trained to do whatever it takes to satisfy our customers. Happy customers create happy investors. In order to have happy customers we also need to have happy team members because the team members are primarily responsible for creating happy customers. When team members are frustrated, dissatisfied, and unhappy in their work they are unlikely to give the high levels of customer service that the business needs to flourish.


Within a complex interdependent self-evolving system, team members must also be treated as ends and not means. Their well-being and happiness must be an end in itself, not merely a means to the profits of the business. Our internal business model within each store is the self-managing team. These teams are the organizational cells of the business. The teams do their own hiring, work scheduling, and product procurement. They are running their own small business within the store, and they have full responsibility for the business. Each team is empowered on many levels, not only in customer satisfaction.


I also believe that it is absolutely essential to trust team members, and one way to show that trust is through open information. Whole Foods provides open financial information—on all levels since want to be as transparent an organization as possible—without making ourselves overly vulnerable to our competitors. I think it essential that the team members have a sense of shared purpose and power. If team members can align around the values and purpose of the business, they are going to have a greater commitment to the business. They will likely unleash greater energy and creativity through that sense of alignment and shared purpose. At Whole Foods, we consciously reject the command and control management style. This top-down, "Do It My Way" approach is the opposite of team member empowerment. We also teach the importance of "shared fate", and by shared fate I mean that the better the company does, the better the customers do, the better the team members do and the better the investors do. Once again, I reference the interdependent nature of the relationship of all the constituencies: happy team members create happy customers, happy customers create happy investors.


Another innovative practice at Whole Foods is the sharing of salary information, so that what everyone gets paid is open information. I believe this is the best way to deal with envy, which exists as part of human nature and in any organization. To deal directly with envy, a business must open up and becoming more transparent. When unjust employment compensation exists, the situation will be noticed and a feedback mechanism will develop to correct it. Conversely, by having such transparency, people can see what skills and qualities are most highly valued and rewarded in the organization so that they can know what to strive for with their own career objectives. We also have a salary cap at Whole Foods, which is currently 19 times the average pay (raised from 14 times average pay on November 2, 2006); more about that in just a second.



Yet another innovation is our benefits vote, wherein we let team members vote every three years on what benefits they can enjoy. After fielding repeated and ongoing requests for various benefits as I traveled around to our stores to meet with team members, I realized that I was not smart enough to figure out the right mix of benefits for Whole Foods. Our team members were forever asking me if they could have this or that additional benefit. Requests for addition benefits are endless. But this is also true for every stakeholder—the desire for a better deal. Every stakeholder is always looking for more. Customers are always looking for lower prices and higher quality. Investors want higher profits. Team members want higher pay and additional benefits. The government wants higher taxes, and the community wants larger donations. I realized that I was not smart enough to figure out the right mix of benefits for Whole Foods team members; instead the executive leadership now decides what percentage of the total revenue will go toward benefits for the company, and then assigns a cost for every potential benefit. Every three years our team members prioritize and vote on the benefits that they most prefer. This process results in benefits that reflect the needs and desires of the majority of the team members in the company.


I also believe in promoting gain-sharing to the largest extent possible. Gain-sharing means creating incentive and compensation for every team member working at a company. Through this process, a team member basically receives his/her just rewards for efforts expended and teamwork is critical to success. A business should clearly define what it is that it wants to reward and then set up an incentive program around those criteria.


We also grant stock options to all team members in the company, and 93 percent of our stock options go to non-executives. We have instituted fully paid health insurance for all of our full-time (30 hours per week) team members, or close to 90 percent of all the people that work for Whole Foods. The remaining 10 percent part-time (less than 30 hours per week) team members are encouraged to buy our discounted health insurance if they wish. We also offer personal wellness accounts that allow team members many additional options for their health spending, and health saving accounts. These allow team members to cover the deductible for the health insurance plan or to pay for health services that are out of coverage, such as acupuncture and chiropractic. Money not used rolls over to the next year's wellness account or into a health savings account. We also grant stock options to all team members in the company, with an unprecedented 93 percent of our stock options going to non-executives.



The Distribution of Stock Options


Our emphasis on team member happiness is working and when team members provide us with feedback, we respond. We are very proud of the fact that Whole Foods Market has been named by Fortune Magazine as one of the 100 best companies to work for during the last nine consecutive years through 2006. Does an emphasis on team member happiness pay off for investors? In a zero sum world it would not. Team member gains would necessarily mean investor losses. Fortunately we don't live in a zero sum world. Rather, we live in an interdependent world where the flourishing of the various stakeholders creates mutual benefits for each other. The chart below clearly shows that creating a great place to work and employee happiness does not necessarily come at the expense of the investors in the business. The companies comprising Fortune Magazine's list of the 100 Best Companies to Work For have significantly outperformed both the S&P 500 and the Russell 3000 indices since the list was first created in 1998. This is strong evidence that supports the ideas I'm articulating in this chapter.


Fortune's "100 Best Employers" vs. Stock Market 1998-2005

Creating Wealth, Profits, and Growth

While creating value for both customers and team members are very important, so is creating value for the investors. All three stakeholders are interdependent upon one another. All must flourish together. As one of our core values, we feel that Whole Foods Market has a responsibility to create prosperity through profits and growth. We consider ourselves stewards of the investors' money and because of this, frugality is important. We strive never to waste the investors' money. Profits are created through voluntary exchange for mutual benefit, not through exploitation of people. This very important truth reveals as false the many critiques of capitalism, such as Marxism, which argues that all profits should belong to labor because labor creates all of the value of the business. However, this Marxist theory of labor value isn't true. All value is not created through labor in business, although of course labor does create a significant portion of value (and also receives the appropriate share of the value it generates). Management also creates value with strategic direction, proper resource allocation, and through organizing the business in effective and efficient ways. Investors create value through the capital they have invested. Without sufficient investment capital businesses are unable to buy necessary equipment or invest in necessary leasehold improvements to operate the business or make investments in research and development for the future. Investors deserve competitive returns on their business investments; otherwise they will withdraw their capital from the business and redirect it to alternative investments which give them higher returns. The different suppliers trading with the business also deserve fair returns in exchange for the goods and services they provide to the business, as do the landlords who provide the real estate to operate the business. Everyone trading with a business is trading voluntarily and their own profits are created through exchange with the business. Any money left over from the myriad of voluntary exchanges is justly owned by the investors in the business. This is their profit. They have been paid last after every other trader has completed their exchanges.


Profits create wealth, prosperity, and additional capital. Capital inputs fund most technological innovation and progress. For example, 200 years ago 95 percent of the world's population was considered poor. Today about 60 percent of the global population is still poor. In the last 200 years we have seen the poverty rate drop from 95% to 60%. At the current rate of growth, we are going to see world poverty drop considerably in the next 50 years; by the year 2050 only about 25 percent of the world's population will remain below the poverty level. We are seeing this happen right now with the explosion in the economies of two of the most populated countries in the world-China and India. These two economies are growing at extremely rapid rates and hundreds of millions of people are being lifted into the middle class and moving out of poverty. This illustrates one of the most important purposes of business. Business has the fundamental responsibility to create prosperity for our society and for the world.


The Whole Foods Market system of Conscious Capitalism and managing the business for the benefit of all its stakeholders works very well and it creates tremendous long-term shareholder value. Whole Foods is the fastest growing and the most profitable public food retailer, percentage-wise, in the United States. Our same store sales have averaged close to 10 percent for the last 10 years. If you compare that to conventional supermarket companies such as Kroger's, Safeway, Albertson's, Wild Oats or Wal-Mart you'll see that our same-store sales are somewhere between 300 and 500 percent greater than same-store sales at conventional markets. Our sales per square foot currently exceed $900, more than twice as high as any of our previously identified competitors. Our store return on after-tax invested capital is 34 percent overall, and higher for stores that have been open for more than one year. Whole Foods Market's stock price has increased almost 3000 percent since our IPO in 1992. The sum of $10,000 dollars invested during our IPO would be worth nearly $300,000 today.


Suppliers are Partners

The fourth stakeholder group consists of thousands of suppliers who provide us with invaluable goods and services. Without our suppliers we wouldn't have anything to sell and the business would quickly cease to exist. I believe the best attitude toward the various suppliers of any business is to view them as essential partners in the enterprise. To keep the system of interrelated stakeholders healthy, most of the suppliers of a business should also flourish through their voluntary trade with the business. While in the competitive marketplace it is impossible for all suppliers of a particular business to simultaneously succeed—inevitably some will fail through a lack of quality or efficiency—it is essential that most suppliers successfully flourish in order to have the capital to improve their quality and the efficiency of their products and services. Honesty, fair trading, and an attitude of helping one's suppliers to learn, grow, and continuously improve are valuable attitudes to have in relating to the vendor stakeholder group. As suppliers improve the quality and efficiency of their goods and services, this will also improve what the business can offer to its own customers. I've watched the suppliers in the natural and organic products marketplace continuously improve for almost 30 years. A large part of Whole Foods Market's success has been the result of the continuous improvements and countless innovations of our vendor community.


Caring About our Communities and Environment

The fifth constituency is our community and the sixth is the environment. I believe that business is best thought of as a citizen existing within the communities where it does business. Business even enjoys the same legal status as a person. As citizens, businesses have responsibilities to their communities just like every other citizen. These responsibilities are not infinite, just as we do not have infinite responsibilities as individual citizens to our government or to the local communities in which we live, but we do have some. Most community responsibilities are met through following all the laws that exist in the communities and by paying all the taxes assessed on the business. However, just as individuals may choose to give additional community support beyond simply complying with all laws and paying their taxes, so may business. Vital dynamic communities need philanthropic support from both individuals and from businesses that participate within the community.


I believe philanthropy is consistent with citizenship and should be managed prudently and efficiently just like every other aspect of a business. Philanthropy, executed properly, can also contribute to shareholder value through increased goodwill with customers, team members and communities. In my experience, philanthropy is not a win/lose situation, where money is being taken away from investors and shareholders and given to someone undeserving. Instead, with business viewed as an interdependent system of various constituencies, if you manage the business for the health of all the constituencies, optimizing the community constituency provides positive feedback effects on the shareholder constituency. For example, when our stores do the right thing by our communities, we create goodwill with our customers and team members, so that they both feel good about the business. We also tend to generate good public relations by doing the right thing in our communities, leading to positive media attention. We are enhancing the long-term brand and viability of our business and all of the above ultimately pays benefits to our investors.


In meeting our responsibilities as citizens, Whole Foods Market donates five percent of our after tax profits to non-profit organizations, with nearly 75 percent given away on a local basis. Whole Foods Market supports various food banks, local community events, school functions, and Boy and Girl scouts, whose families might also patronize our stores. We likewise support health initiatives such as fighting AIDS, and breast and childhood cancers. With 188 stores currently, we give to thousands of local organizations. Many of our customers belong to or volunteer with the organizations we support, and as they trade with Whole Foods Market, we are in turn supporting them in the communities in which we live and do business. Many of our stores also compensate team members for community service work, either on an individual basis, or as a group.


Whole Foods Market trades throughout the world and we recognize our responsibilities as global citizens, as well. Poverty remains one of the most serious global challenges, and one of the ways we are trying to be good global citizens is through the creation of Whole Planet Foundation. Our mission with Whole Planet Foundation is to create economic partnerships with the poor and developing world communities that supply our stores with products. Through innovative assistance for entrepreneurship, including direct micro-credit loans, as well as intangible support for other community partnership projects, we seek to support the energy and creativity of every human being we work with in order to help create wealth and prosperity in emerging economies.


Whole Planet Foundation's current efforts center in both Costa Rica and the Lake Atitlan district of Guatemala, in villages from which Whole Foods purchases pineapples, bananas, and coffee. Additional projects are being set up in India and Nicaragua, and eventually we will have micro-credit projects throughout the world. Whole Planet Foundation partners with Grameen Bank, which pioneered micro-lending to the poor (both Grameen Bank and its founder, Muhammed Yunnus won the 2006 Nobel Peace Prize). Most loans will go to women, who tend to be the most economically and socially marginalized constituents in many rural communities. Grameen's work in other parts of the world has shown that women have a huge impact on their communities when given access to credit with which to start small businesses. The system Whole Planet Foundation employs is consistent with Whole Foods Market's long-standing internal philosophy of empowerment. For more information on the Whole Planet Foundation go to


The silent stakeholder that can never speak for itself is the environment. All of our other constituencies can speak up when they are unhappy about something. We consider the environment as linked to our community constituency. As a business, we exist within both a local and global environment. Whole Foods wants to be a responsible citizen in the environment in which we live. We do this by supporting organic and sustainable agriculture and by selling sustainably-harvested seafood.


From its start in 1978 as Safer Way, Whole Foods Market has promoted organic food and the agricultural systems from which it derives. By helping to develop markets, customers, distribution networks, and even the national standards for labeling for organic foods, Whole Foods has also promoted the environmental benefits that accompany the increasing number of organic farms, dairies, ranches and sustainable agricultural practices. For example, organic farms utilize no synthetic fertilizers and pesticides, resulting in reduced usage of fossil fuels, and less chemical contamination entering food chains and water supplies. While some products are transported long distance to meet consumer demand, Whole Foods Markets also stock as many locally-grown and/or manufactured products that meet our quality standards as are available in our market areas.


Organic and sustainable agricultural methods, in addition, build healthy, vital soil rich with microorganisms and nutrients, featuring superior moisture retention and a resistance to erosion. Other benefits include increased biodiversity when compared to the vast mono-cultural fields found on industrial farms, and the maintenance of food safety and the integrity of soil and crops by prohibiting the use of genetically modified organisms. Organic agriculture typically acknowledges the role food animals have in our foods systems and preserves the integrity of meat and dairy products by prohibiting the use of antibiotics and artificial growth hormones.


Whole Foods Market is working towards animal compassion with livestock animals and eliminating cruel practices in commercial livestock production. Whole Foods Market refuses to sell commercial veal from tethered calves, foie gras from force-fed ducks, or live lobsters, feeling that the methods used to produce and transport and display before sale these animals are too inhumane. Helping create alternatives to the "factory farm" methods of raising livestock is a goal that Whole Foods Market is strongly committed to and we have created animal compassionate standards through a multi-stakeholder process to try to raise the bar. Our standards can be seen in more detail at:


Industrial pollution and over-fishing cause tremendous damage to our oceans. Coral reefs have declined by 30% in the last 30 years. It is estimated that the total number of whales in the world has declined 90% in the last 100 years. World supplies of cod, swordfish, marlin, halibut, skate, and flounder have been reduced by over 50% in the last 50 years. We are fishing out the oceans, it is happening in our lifetimes. Whole Foods refuses to sell seafood species such as blue fin tuna that are considered to be endangered species by a consensus of seafood experts. We have long supported The Marine Stewardship Council, both financially and through participation on their Board of Directors.


Whole Foods Market addresses its energy usage in several ways. We track our energy use by store, and are moving that analysis down to the equipment level, so that we can track when outdated appliances need to be replaced. We utilize solar energy and other green building practices in our newer stores, and harness the idealistic energy of many of our younger team members in our Green Mission teams. Our Green Mission team members throughout the company are empowered to work together to systematically lessen our environmental impacts. Our Green Teams have been highly effective in moving the company forward to greater and greater environmental integrity through numerous reusing, recycling, and re-education initiatives.


Finally, in 2006, Whole Foods Market took the lead as the largest corporate purchaser of wind energy credits in the nation as we offset 100% of our building energy needs with wind energy credits. Each store and office has a comprehensive recycling program, and we open up many of our recycling initiatives to our customers.


In summary, Whole Foods Market meets its responsibilities to both local and global communities, often with innovative programs, and has led by example in many pro-environment initiatives. Whole Foods is also aware that its operations provide many opportunities for improvement in the future. As with our other constituency groups, we have no intention of becoming complacent.


Creating a New Paradigm for Non-Profit Organizations

I want to briefly discuss the limitations of the current non-profit models that exist in the world today. In my opinion, most modern American non-profit organizations operate with a mentality that creates inefficiencies, waste, and stagnation; most non-profits are ineffective in fulfilling their mission. Fully 99 percent of non-profit organizations are dependent upon donations from the business sector or private citizens in order to exist; they're not sustainable on their own. Most non-profits feel pretty good about themselves because they have idealistic, altruistic goals—they have stated purposes beyond maximizing profits. They are do-gooders, trying to do good things in the world. But these good intentions beg the question—are these altruistic goals enough by themselves to make non-profit organizations good and ethical, and do these goals also make them effective? Are the noble purposes by themselves enough? And just because the goals are idealistic does that mean that a non-profit organization is able to completely transcend self-interest? I argue, probably not.


It's my position that non-profit organizations also need to evolve to a more holistic model, just as business needs to. Below we have a great graphic depicting a common view of the good, altruistic non-profit organizations versus the evil, selfish greedy corporations.


A wall exists between the non-profits and for-profits consisting partly of the stereotypes that exist in our society today. Non-profits are viewed as good because they have altruistic, idealistic goals. As you can see on the graphic, non-profits often believe that money "grows on trees", and because their ideals are altruistic, they are seen as "angels". Non-profits sponsor idealistic events like AIDS walks and they have an environmental consciousness. On the other side of the wall you see the clear contrast with the for-profit sector of business. You see the stereotype of the greedy businessman with dollar signs in his eyes, grasping after money, and smokestacks popping up all around the world. The world is plastered with high-rise buildings and the environment is being destroyed, with the angel being transformed into a devil because again, the only goal is to maximize profits and that it is seen as simply selfish and greedy.


I think these stereotypes have outlived their usefulness. As a global society we need both non-profit and for-profit organizations to become holistic and integral, the wall that separates them needs to be torn down, and the polarities integrated. Corporations must rethink why they exist. Corporations need to become more conscious, and identify deeper and more comprehensive purposes for why they exist. They must evolve past machine metaphors and learn how to think holistically in terms of creating value for all there interdependent constituencies. Likewise non-profits must become economically sustainable and must discover that money and profits are good, not evil, and that they are a necessary part of a healthy holistic organization. A great example of this is Grameen Bank.


Grameen Bank is a non-profit organization begun in Bangladesh by Muhammed Yunus that has not only helped millions of people lift themselves out of poverty, but it has also become financially sustainable. Grameen Bank provides a great model toward which other non-profits should aspire. Started in 1983 by Muhummad Yunnus, in his native Bangladesh, Grameen Bank offers small, collateral-free loans to (predominantly) poor women who pass certain criteria. Founded on the basis of trust and solidarity, Grameen (Village) Bank works with its customers on their business plans, and requires a particular code of conduct that emphasizes community building behaviors and actions. Principal and interest from the loans, typically repaid by small weekly installments, go back into the borrower's local operating funds, to fund new loans. By providing financial opportunity to traditionally underserved clients, Grameen Bank has realized a repayment record of more than 97% (one of the best bank repayment records in the world). This contrasts with a repayment rate of less than 60% over the same timeframe in the traditional Bangladesh banking world that caters to middle and upper class clients. In the 20+ years Grameen Bank has been in business, the income of more than 50% of the families of Grameen borrowers have risen above the poverty level.


In Bangladesh today, Grameen operates 1,084 branches, serving 2.1 million borrowers in 37,000 villages. On any working day Grameen collects an average of $1.5 million in weekly installments. Of the borrowers, 94% are women. Although operating in the realm of philanthropic organizations in that it has altruistic goals and ideals, Grameen Bank employs a model that is self-sustaining. Although it welcomes donations, the alternative bank does not rely on the business or private sector for its operating expenses, and provides a sustainable model toward which other non-profits should aspire. Grameen methods are now applied in projects in 58 countries, including the US, Canada, France, the Netherlands and Norway.


Once the conceptual wall separating non-profits and profits is torn down, it becomes clear that businesses and non-profits are potentially much more alike than they are different. They both can become holistic, and at a higher integral level, non-profits and for-profit businesses look remarkably similar. An ideal non-profit's organizational model looks very similar to the Whole Foods Conscious Capitalism model introduced earlier. The non-profit expresses core values and it has similar constituencies to a business: employees, customers, suppliers, and investors/donors. The donors want the organization to achieve its societal mission, and if it does the donors will be happy, and will send increased financial resources to the non-profit organization. Just because it has a social mission does not exempt the non-profit from community and environmental responsibilities. The holistic non-profit has a very similar model to the holistic business, an important point I want to underscore. The following graphic illustrates the holistic model for non-profit organizations.


Non-Profit Business Model: Sustainability



The old paradigm of maximizing profits and shareholder values as the sole purpose of business has created negative unintended consequences. Businesses and corporations are seen as greedy, selfish, and evil. Business is seen as despoiling the environment and causing harm in the world. Business has a very bad brand. We can remove most the hostility toward business and capitalism if we can change the way we think about it and if businesses work on becoming better citizens. Business needs to become holistic and integral with deeper more comprehensive purposes. Corporations must rethink why they exist. If business owners/entrepreneurs begin to view their business as an complex and evolving interdependent system and manage their business more consciously for the well-being of all their major stakeholders while fulfilling their highest business purpose, then I believe that we would begin to see the hostility towards capitalism and business disappear around the world.


In summation, business is fundamentally a community of people working together to create value for other people, their customers, employees, investors, and the greater society. Business interacts within a harmony of interests. At the same time non-profits need to become economically sustainable and discover that money and profits are good, not evil, and necessary for them to fulfill their purposes. A holistic perspective is essential for non-profits. A new Conscious Capitalism paradigm will improve the effectiveness of each type of organization. But on a basic philosophical level, why try to "do good" in the world? Why isn't the pursuit of our own self-interest enough? Perhaps we need to look more closely again at what Adam Smith wrote. The Wealth of Nations was a tremendous achievement, but economists would also be well served to read Smith's other great book, The Theory of Moral Sentiments. There he explains that human nature is not just about self-interest. It also includes sympathy, empathy, friendship, love, and the desire for social approval. As motives for human behavior, these are at least as important as self-interest; for many people, they are more important.


When we are small children we are egocentric, concerned only about our own needs and desires. As we mature, we grow beyond this egocentrism and begin to care about others—our families, friends, communities, and countries. Our capacity to love can expand even further, to loving people from different races, religions, and countries—potentially to unlimited love for all people and even for other sentient creatures. This is our potential as human beings, to take joy in the flourishing of people everywhere. Let us each realize our potential for deeper love and extend it out into the world—let us together create this new business paradigm of Conscious Capitalism.

1The publicly-traded companies included in the study include: Amazon, Best Buy, CarMax, Caterpillar, Commerce Bank, Costco, eBay, Google, Harley Davidson, Honda, JetBlue, Johnson & Johnson, Progressive Insurance, Southwest Airlines, Starbucks, Timberland, Toyota, UPS, and Whole Foods Market. 2Sisodia, Rajendra, Wolfe, David, and Sheth, Jagdish, Firms of Endearment: the Pursuit of Purpose and Profit, (manuscript), Wharton School Publising, 2007.

Let me try to clear up a few misunderstandings about the ideas expressed in this chapter via the questions posed at previous presentations of this material:


Q: Why am I opposed to profit?


A: I am not opposed to profit. As I have pointed out, Whole Foods Market is a highly profitable company. Profits are good. Profits are an important part of what business is about, but profits are not the sole purpose of business. Business has other purposes than merely maximizing profits. Entrepreneurs who create businesses rarely create businesses solely for the purpose of maximizing profits and entrepreneurs are the ones who ultimately define, in my opinion, the purpose of the businesses they create. Most businesses have purposes besides maximizing profits, because entrepreneurs create them for other purposes. There may be certain occasions where an entrepreneur creates a business and is only concerned with maximizing profits; he or she is entitled to do so, it certainly is not unethical. But strictly profit based business probably won't be as successful or profitable a business over the long-term as it could be. I do not think it will compete well head-to-head with a more holistic and integral business model, if the business strategy and all other things are equal. I am not arguing that a business cannot operate solely for profits, I'm merely stating that many, if not most, businesses are not that way when entrepreneurs first created them. If business leaders become more conscious of the fact that their business it is not really a machine but part of a complex interdependent and evolving system with multiple constituencies, they will see that profit is one of the important purposes of the business, but not the sole purpose. They will also begin to see that the best way to maximize long-term profits is to create value for the entire interdependent business system. Once enough business leaders come to understand and accept this new business paradigm, I believe that Conscious Capitalism will reach a takeoff point and the hostility toward business will largely dissipate over the long-term.


Q: Does philanthropy equal social responsibility?


A: No, philanthropy is actually just a small part of the social responsibility of business. The social responsibility of business is about creating value for all of its constituencies. If you are creating value for your customers and employees, acting with integrity toward your suppliers, if you are a good citizen paying taxes, if you take responsibility for your environmental impacts, you'll fulfill most of your social responsibilities. However, if a business is responsible to its investors, employees, customers, suppliers, and the environment but refuses to contribute toward philanthropic organizations, it would be neglecting the important community constituency. It would be a stingy neighbor to have, but it could still be creating value in the world through the value it creates for its customers, employees, suppliers, government, and the environment. The contrary is also true: a business could be highly philanthropic to its communities, but if it is creating shoddy or harmful products, exploiting its employees, cheating its suppliers, and doing significant damage to the environment it can hardly be considered an ethical or socially responsible business no matter how great its philanthropy is.


Philanthropy is not primarily what social responsibility is about, but it is also not "theft" from the investors if a business chooses to contribute some money to the communities where it has a presence. That would be part of its responsibility as a citizen and such donations will not only help the community, but will simultaneously create good will with customers, employees, the media, and other citizens in the community. I believe that while philanthropy does not equate to social responsibility by itself, philanthropic donations are certainly consistent with being a responsible citizen in the community in which business exists.


One common objection to philanthropy is where to draw the line? If donating five percent of profits is good (as Whole Foods does), wouldn't 10 percent be even better? Why not donate 100 percent of our profits to the betterment of society? But the fact that a business has responsibilities as a citizen in the various communities it exists in doesn't mean that it doesn't have any responsibilities to investors or other stakeholders. It's a question of finding the appropriate balance and trying to create value for all of the stakeholders simultaneously. Whole Foods donates five percent of its profits to the community stakeholder (in addition to the taxes we pay). Is five percent the "right amount" to donate to the community? I don't think there is a right answer to this question, except that I believe zero percent is too little. It is an arbitrary percentage that the co-founders of the company decided was a reasonable amount and which was approved by the owners of the company at the time we made the decision. Corporate philanthropy is a good thing, but it ultimately requires the legitimacy of investor approval, and the investors as the owners of the business have the right and the authority to withdraw their approval if they wish. In my experience, most investors understand that modest philanthropy can be beneficial to both the corporation and to the larger society. They understand that philanthropy is consistent with creating long-term profits for the investors because of the interdependent nature of the business enterprise.


An argument that I frequently field is that corporations or businesses don't have any special competence in philanthropy; therefore corporations should stick to what they do best, which is maximizing their profits and allowing the individual shareholders to engage in philanthropy. This is a deceptive argument for a couple of reasons. Number one is that this line of reasoning overlooks the fact that business is legally treated as a citizen of the community in which it exists. If you want to maximize shareholder value in an integrated holistic system, philanthropy can be part of that strategy, and it is the responsibility a citizen has in his or her community in any case. The same people who argue against corporations engaging in philanthropy frequently argue that government is also incompetent in engaging in civic activities. As their argument develops, now they assert that business is incompetent and government is incompetent, so that puts all civic responsibility onto individual citizens. I ask you, are individual citizens inherently more competent in philanthropic endeavors than businesses? I would argue that because business taps into more complex feedback loops and may enjoy the results of more detailed research on the effectiveness of its investments, business probably has the potentiality to be more competent in philanthropic practice than could most individuals.


From my perspective, we need to acknowledge civic responsibility at the individual, corporate, and governmental levels. Civic responsibilities cannot be completely met by the voluntary individual sector of society. Corporations have great contributions to make in philanthropy. Perhaps some corporate philanthropy is misguided and money is wasted, however, I will point out that corporations make investments all the time that do not work out. Corporations make mistakes all the time, and they can make mistakes in philanthropy, just like they can make mistakes in other areas of their business such as the people they hire and promote or their investments in new equipment or facilities or their mergers and acquisitions. . Not everything a business attempts will succeed, but that simple truth does not negate the business process. Corporations may not always be successful in the philanthropic arena either; they will occasionally make mistakes. These mistakes do not negate the worthwhile value of most philanthropic efforts. In most cases business philanthropy creates beneficial social value.


Q: Who should control corporations, stockholders, or stakeholders?


A: One of the objections I hear frequently is that I am advocating for stakeholder control of corporations, replacing stockholder control. I am certainly not arguing for that. As I have already pointed out, stockholders own the corporation, they get paid last based on residual profits left over from the business and it's essential that they have the final say on who comprises company management through the Board of Directors. They need to have the ultimate power to fire management through the Board of Directors if they are unhappy with the performance of the company. Without that power it is inevitable that the stockholders will eventually be exploited by the management or some of the other constituencies of the business. I am not arguing, and have never argued, for anything that weakens the property rights of the investors and stockholders. That line of reasoning is a misunderstanding.


Q. What about conflicts between various stakeholders? How do you create balance between all the conflicting desires and demands of all the different stakeholders? For example: if more is given to the employees doesn't that necessarily result in less being available to the other stakeholders such as the investors and vice versa? How do you avoid conflict and keep all of the stakeholders happy?


A. Conflict between the various stakeholders in a business is inevitable from time to time simply because each stakeholder wants more. Customers want higher quality and lower prices, employees want higher wages and better benefits, investors want higher profits, governments want higher taxes, and community groups want greater donations. The potential for conflict is always there. However, the fundamental mistake that most people make when thinking about this issue of conflict between stakeholders is that they create analytical separations between the stakeholders and leave it at that. They see them as separate from each other and the business-each pursuing their own interests. When this type of analytical separation is done it also engages in a form of reductionism-it ignores the relationships between the stakeholders and the business and with each other. The business is more than just the sum of the individual stakeholders. It is also the interrelationship, the interconnection, the shared purpose, and the shared values that the various stakeholders of the business co-create and co-evolve together. No complex, evolving, and self-adapting organization can be adequately understood merely through analyzing its parts and ignoring the greater system that also exists. This is a very important idea to understand because while the analytic mind will focus on the conflicting interests of the stakeholders it will tend to ignore or fail to see what the intuitive systems mind understands-that the stakeholders are interconnected together in a "harmony of interests". In a healthy complex, evolving, and self-adapting system this harmony of interests between stakeholders proves to be far more important and resilient than the various conflicts of interest that the analytic mind focuses on.


A holistic business creates value for all of its stakeholders. Given the desire of each stakeholder for more how is the value divided between the stakeholders to keep them happy? There is, of course, ultimately no magical formula to calculate how much value each stakeholder should receive from the company. It is a dynamic process that evolves with the competitive marketplace. No stakeholder remains satisfied for long. It is the function of company leadership to develop solutions that continually work for the common good. It is the art of excellent leadership to seek the win-win-win-win-win solutions in the context of competitive market processes that optimize the value of the entire business system, and for each of the stakeholder participants within that business system.


Q. My final point of clarification is the quote from Adam Smith that is frequently used to try to negate my point of view. The quote is "By pursuing his own interest he frequently promotes that of the society more effectually than when he really intends to promote it. I have never known much good done by those who affected to trade for the public good." Adam Smith in The Wealth of Nations.


A. To me this quote has two parts to it, the first one is a reinforcement of Adam Smith's famous 'invisible hand' metaphor (which I think was the most profound insight into social history ever made) which implies that through a voluntary exchange people acting in their own self interest, pursing their own good create value for the greater society. That is true! I am not arguing against that. I believe in the invisible hand. Period. The second part of the statement, however, is what I disagree with, "I have never known much good done by those who have affected the trade of the public good." The fact of the matter is that much of the good that is done in this world is done by people who intend to do the good. The invisible hand metaphor correctly points out that much good is done for the public accidentally, so to speak, by simple pursuit of self-interest. Through voluntary exchange, acting in self-interest, parties both voluntarily exchange, and both parties benefit or the exchange wouldn't happen. That process creates a social good, true, but it is also true that very much good is done because people have an intention to "do good". All the "good" is not done accidentally.


I believe that the 'invisible hand' of Adam Smith should be supplemented by the 'visible hand' of intentional "do-gooding", and that individuals, governments, and businesses have endless opportunities to attempt to do-good in the world. Business has the opportunity to "do good" and create value for all the various constituencies that trade with the business voluntarily. I also believe that supplementing the 'invisible hand', with a 'visible hand', if done consciously, on an ongoing basis by individuals and corporations around the world, would help push humanity into an era of accelerated progress that would be unprecedented in world history. That is what Whole Foods Market is trying to do, and that is what Conscious Capitalism really means.

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Thomas R. Clifford says …

As an organic consumer for over 20 years and a Whole Foods Ambassador, I applaud John's vision. I recently finished filming three days in New York for The International Spirit at Work Award. The incredible stories we captured from the award-winning companies at this unique event were a testament to the power of creating meaningful work that engages the "whole" person. 50 years from now, the Mackay Model will be featured in all the business schools as the most successful way to run a company...large or small. Thanks, John and all the best! Thomas R. Clifford Corporate-Conscious Filmmaker

Thomas MacGowan says …

I have read Mr. Mackey's essay "conscious capitalism," and I must dissent. The ethos of the health-food stores back in the 60s was not only ecological and vegetarian, but also anti-capitalist. I am in favor of deep ecology, animal rights, and socialism. The type of socialism most consistent with animal liberation and earth liberation is not Marxism, but rather bioregionalism, decentralization, workers' self-management, and an economy and social order based on cooperation instead of competition. John Mackey may mean well, but it would surely be better that health food stores should be a network of independent, small cooperatives, not branches of a single corporate giant traded on the stock exchange. The health food business should be decentralized and imbued with a cooperative and anti-establishmentarian ethos, what one might call a "hippie" ethos, rather than that they should be recuperated into yet another octopus-like monopoly with horizontal and vertical integration. I would also question the validity of Whole Foods Market's animal welfare standards, which apparently permit the de-beaking of poultry. Capitalism is based on exploitation of humans, animals, and nature, and it requires perpetual growth and perpetual profit, which are incompatible with the fact of living on a finite planet. Social justice cannot coexist with inequality, and capitalism creates and magnifies inequality by its very essence.

Federico Rendon says …

Good Evening Mr. Mackey, My name is Federico Rendon, I am an ISSC @ the Woodway Store in Houston. First off right on, I dig your essay. All the content is very interesting and hits home but what really got me was the part on our Core Values. As Team Members, we live them everyday. They are all equally important and crucial to our success. I wanted to comment about Core Value: Supporting Team Member Happiness and Excellence. Happy Team members create a good positive vibe (you can feel the energy all around), it’s hard to explain. Kind of like a sound wave radiating from each Team Member throughout our Store. I can not count the number of times Guests young and mature have come in with a frown and left with a smile. This Core Value to me sparks the other Core Values into full forward motion. John, take care and thank you for everything. We know you have us on your mind and we have you in our heart. Peace FR

Don Schaffer says …

Big business indeed runs the world and I believe that's the way the world wants it.Maybe not you and me but the bulk of society that feels their employers should be their caretakers. Most spoils of the good life are accompanied by a price tag only big business can afford. At professional sporting events, the bulk of the good seats are owned by large corporations and generally go unused.Team owners could care less as long as the seats are sold. They couldn't care less if the Third Reich sits in the seats(they would probably increase beer sales if they did.)At some point big business will acquire all small business.That's the way of the world. And I believe that's the way the world wants it.

Nancy Harrison says …

Dear John, I was impressed by your essay, and am thinking about it in the context of having been a Bread & Cricus and then a WFM customer for many years, ever since B&C was founded in Brookline, MA. I like your analysis of business in terms of conscious capitalism, but I do have a couple of issues with/questions about the analysis. 1. I think that scale has a degrading effect on the 'ecology' of a mission-oriented business. You mention having a store-based team-based approach to running the business, but I've noticed, in my dealings with various stores in various cities/states, that the effect is often not optimal for a local market. 2. I think that the analysis may not take into account the stress on the mission-oriented business model from two factors - having a founder leave/retire from a business. (Obviously WFM has not gotten to this stage yet.) - the legal status of corporations in the US, defined as legal 'persons', with just about all the legal rights of actual individuals but almost none of the restrictions on behavior or requirements that human individuals are subject to. Your model calls upon a business to operate as a responsible corporate 'citizen' within the community. In a standard publicly held corporation, unless the CEO and BoD have the vision and the authority to set the kind of direction you've set for WFM, the outside pressures of maintaining 'market value' can work against long-range business thinking. In regard to the second factor, I think this skewed legal framework for capitalism, especially for publicly owned companies, undercuts the ability of business leaders to run mission-oriented businesses; it can be just too easy and seductive to do the expedient thing rather than the 'right' thing. I'd be interested in hearing your take on the interaction between a change in upper management, pressures of public ownership and the maintenance of a mission-oriented business's core values. with best regards, Nancy Harrison

John Mackey says …

To Thomas MacGowan, You offer your opinions about the way you think the world ought to be but offer no arguments, facts, evidence, or logic to support your viewpoints. I worked towards the decentralized co-operative world you believe in the early 1970s before I began Whole Foods Market. In my experience the decentralized co-operative world that you believe in isn't realistic or achievable. You do your thing with co-ops and I'll do my thing with Whole Foods and Conscious Capitalism. Let's see who has a greater positive impact on the world over the long-term. Also Whole Foods animal compassion standards don't allow debeaking of birds, although our current natural standards do. Please read both sets of standards to better understand what we are trying to do with animal compassion. Here is the exact URL for broiler chickens: To Nancy Harrison, 1. I don't agree with your point of view that scale necessarily "degrades the ecology of the mission driven business." Do you have any evidence or facts to support your opinion besides anecdotes? I believe Whole Foods size has enabled us to accomplish far more good than we ever did when we were smaller. Organic agriculture would not be the success it is today and growing at such a rapid rate if Whole Foods had stayed small. Our work toward animal compassionate standards also wouldn't be possible. Nor would the Whole Planet Foundation even exist which has already helped improve the lives thousands of really poor people in Costa Rica and Guatemala in less than 1 year of operation. 2. I can't answer the founder succession issue until it actually happens at Whole Foods. I will say that the other 3 co-founders left Whole Foods in 1981, 1985, and 1998 and we have flourished despite their leaving. I believe Whole Foods will continue to flourish and fulfill its mission after I leave the company as well, but we'll have to wait and see to know for sure. What restrictions on behaviour do individuals have that corporations don't have? I'm not aware of any. Please point 3 good examples out. Thanks. 3. I believe you are correct about the short-term market pressures from investors having a negative effect on many corporations making ethical and good long-term decisions. Many corporations do cave into those pressures. I don't believe Whole Foods does, however, and this does tend to anger short-term investors when the stock price drops. Just read some of the comments on this blog entry and my previous one on raising the salary cap. I believe we could completely eliminate short-term speculative pressure on corporations through some simple tax reforms. Here is what I propose: Capital Gains produced for stock held less than 1 year--40%, 2 years--30%, 3 years 20%, 4 years 10%, 5+ years 0%. This single tax reform would completely change the way investors think about companies and their stock prices and would put a premium on holding for the long-term. To Don Shaffer, I don't agree with your world view. Certainly large corporations are powerful and have great influence in the world. However, I'm far from sure that is what people really want. Quite the contrary: people tend to trust small business and mistrust big business. Regarding large businesses acquiring all the small businesses, the facts don't support your viewpoint. The Fortune 500 companies represent a much smaller percentage of the total United States economy in 2006 than they did in 1956. Entrepreneurs keep creating new companies which undermine the dominance of existing large corporations. Just look at what has happened in the last 20 years alone--Starbucks, Jet Blue, Dell, Apple, Google, Microsoft, Virgin,, EBay, Whole Foods, etc. New companies keep getting created and they change the world, undermining large corporations while they do it. Sure these companies have all grown large too, but their dominance will likely also prove to be short-lived as new entrepreneurs come along and undermine the dominance of the existing large companies. Google didn't even exist 10 years ago!!

Ian says …

Hi John, I 'd like to second the point that Thomas MacGowan makes about the "perpetual growth and perpetual profit" of capitalism being "incompatible with the fact of living on a finite planet." Ironically, this "Growth is Good" paradigm has been programmed by Mother Nature into all living beings. Business-speak is full of positive, natural-sounding words like "grow", "cultivate", "thrive", "flourish" etc. and business as a living organism is indeed an apt metaphor. The problem is that, in both the business world and the natural world, because resources are limited, survival and growth entail competition for these resources. Of course there are numerous examples of cooperation, interdependence, symbiosis and so on, nevertheless, the dominant principal in both worlds is competition. As Tennyson said, Nature is red in tooth and claw. And, as the Japanese say, business is war. Until recently, this intense competition for limited resources wasn't a problem, but now that the human population has reached almost 6.6 billion, we are clearly in trouble. There are too many people producing, consuming and polluting. If everyone aspires to enjoy the same standard of living as the average Wholefoods customer, the planet will soon be a sterile, smoking ruin. One quick statistic from p.6 of Lester Brown's Plan B Version 2.0, founder of the (non-profit) Worldwatch Institute says it all: "... Paul MacCready, the founder and Chairman of AeroVironment and designer of the first solar-powered aircraft, has calculated the weight of all vertebrates on the land and in the air. He notes that when agriculture began, humans, their livestock, and pets together accounted for less than 0.1 percent of the total. Today, he estimates, this group accounts for 98 percent of the earth's total vertebrate biomass, leaving only 2 percent for the wild portion, the latter including all the deer, wildebeests, elephants, great cats, birds, small mammals, and so forth." In order to ensure the survival of both ourselves and the other residents of this remarkable planet we need to somehow transcend Mother Nature's imperative of survival, growth and competition, but no business model that I'm aware of encourages people to slow down, produce less, consume less and give their competitors a break - in other words, to shrink. And how could it? Any business that followed these principles would be committing suicide. Nevertheless, even though I think that warm, fluffy versions of capitalism such as "conscious capitalism", "natural capitalism", "eco-commerce" etc. are ultimately unworkable, I am happy to see Wholefoods growing and flourishing, especially when it's at the expense of dinosaurs like Walmart, Safeway and Albertsons. Rip their hearts out, my furry little friends! Kind regards, Ian

Lynda Fassa says …

Hello Mr. Mackey Thank you for opening this important dialogue. Conscious Capitalism is dependent on Conscious Consumerism. I believe we are experiencing a shift in behavior, consumer behavior, and consciousness--that we are now reaping the rewards of the 1960's and early '70's and the revolution of thought, medicine, science and technology that began then and fueled the utopian ideals of my generation. Today I see a growing acceptance of the power of the individual. People are powerful--now they understand that how they choose to spend their hard earned dollars can indeed impact their direct surroundings, and the world at large. People are now becoming aware of how their ideas and ideals matter---how important their beliefs are, and how their simple day-to-day decisions can impact the quality of their lives, and the lives of others whose voices might not be as easily heard. Is it the responsibility of business to foster this understanding, this doable knowledge to so heightens the experience of being human? I hope so---a great American once said, with great power comes great responsibility. We are all very fortunate, and very powerful, how lucky we are to be responsible, too. best Lynda Fassa

Mark says …

Hi: Can you please explain why earlier in the year, you stated that you would not give guidance about future quarters and same-store sales growth because day traders and speculators create a volatile trading environment for the company's stock....Yet in the most recent conference call, you gave all kinds of dissapointing quarter, next year, etc. In the annual meeting, you said that investors should just hold the stock for the long term and not worry about short-term volatility. I agree with you on this. I am not a trader and I do not even own WFMI stock...however, I have had it on my watch list. I believe that you are contradicting your own investor relations policies. You are either being conservative in your estimates only to report "blowout" numbers, or you misled investors. This is why investors are upset, and angry. Yes, WFMI declined a lot on 1 day, but you are the one that advised invesotrs to just hold long-term, even as you present long-term estimates that are not what investors expected and not with historical levels. Yes, growth will continue and WFMI is a company with outstanding financials compared to competitors, but like the products you sell, your stock was trading at a significant premium (PEG ratio, price/sales, etc) Bottom line: Most companies have mgt give guidance...while it creates short-term expectations and volatility, I believe that not giving guidance is far more riskier and jeopordizes people's savings, IRAs, etc. Taking that untraditional approach of not giving guidance has more consequences than benefits for long-term shareholders who should just buy and hold the stock as you recommend. All investors arent greedy and money-hungry. They merely want to invest in solid companies that provide good returns for their own future. Every stock has its own following of daytraders and speculators, but I believe quick money is not the primary motive of most investors. Look at what becoming a public company has done for whole foods. It would not be where it is today without its investors, and they should not feel misled and mislabled. Conscious capitalism is an interesting take on our society and investor ethics, interests, etc. I have read both Adam Smith books that you mentioned.

John Mackey says …

To Mark and other people asking about the stock price: I'm not going to regularly talk about Whole Foods stock price or stock performance on my blog because I think it is a waste of my time to do so. Of course I'm sorry that our stock price dropped after our last quarterly results were announced--after all most of my net worth is in Whole Foods stock. However, our stock price had been bid up by various short-term speculators to an extremely high price at approximately 50 to 60 times earnings. This is an extraordinarily high PE ratio and wasn't sustainable over the long-term for Whole Foods or any other company. With the slow down in our same store sales growth to our historical mean of 8% to 9% it was inevitable that the speculative bubble that had driven our stock price so high was bound to pop and that is exactly what has happened. Now our PE ratio has shrunk to approximately 30 times projected 2007 EPS--a much more reasonable and sustainable multiple. If you look back to our stock price 6 years ago you'll see that it was trading at $13.94 and at approximately the same PE ratio that it has today. Over the last 6 years our stock price has increased at a CAGR of 23.3%, which is almost exactly the same as our growth rate in earnings over the same period. I expect that in the future over the long-term our stock price will continue to increase at approximately the same growth rate as our earnings and cash flow growth does. Whole Foods still has strong growth ahead for it over the long-term and as we grow sales, earnings, cash flow, and EVA it is highly probable that our stock price will grow with it. Whole Foods stock has been a great long-term investment in the past and I believe it will continue to be in the future as well. By long-term, I mean holding the stock for at least 5 years and preferably much longer so that compounding can work its magic. Whole Foods stopped giving quarterly guidance a year ago and now only gives annual guidance, updating that annual guidance each quarter as necessary. Probably at some time in the future the company will stop giving annual guidance as well, but for the time being we will continue to give annual guidance, but not quarterly guidance. We gave no quarterly guidance on our press release, script, or Q&A on the conference call. Check the record. The annual guidance we gave for 2007 is based on our own internal estimates of what we conservatively expect to happen. However, the future is unknown and indeterminate so our guidance may turn out to be wrong. Whole Foods management doesn't try to manage the stock price. Our goal is to fulfill the deeper purpose and Core Values of the company as articulated in my blog about Conscious Capitalism. I believe we are successfully meeting our deeper purpose and Core Values. Regarding the investor stakeholder, our long-term policy has been to maximize EVA (net operating profit after tax minus the cost of capital). 2006 was a tremendous year for the company in terms of total EVA produced and the increase in EVA over the previous year. In fact, from the perspective of the production of EVA, 2006 was our most successful year.

Mark says …

Thanks John for the follow-up. I may not have been entirely clear in my question(s) but your response has answered them. I would not recommend that you would consider not giving annual guidance in the future. This will create a negative effect on Whole Foods in the investor community. This will create more speculators than investors and result in a more hostile, volatile share price. Most members of management do not even comment on the trading action of their company's stock price. To suggest in the annual meeting that investors should hold the stock, yet you write above that the price was inflated and a bubble waiting to burst might raise some questions. "Whole Foods management doesn't try to manage the stock price" This is good to hear, because management has little control over trading patterns, trends, etc. Special dividends like you have done in the past and increasing your share buyback to 200M are good ways to maximize shareholder value. I wanted to conclude by saying how much I repsect and appreciate Whole Foods as a philosophy more than a brand. I am especially grateful for your company's focus on animal compassion. Thank You

Anne Toerper says …

I have just begun to read your beginning thesis. I have worked one whole day for Whole Foods. I am so impressed by the foundations and principles you have layed down here. (at least the first 10 paragraphs that I have read, but I can feel the direction) In a day and age when the top CEO, in America, makes approx. $25,000/hr - yes, an hour, based on a Wall St. Journal article that I read last spring, and you make $450,000/yr, and now $1 for the year. Your real viewpoint speaks. I am so impressed by the complete corporate attitude which filters down from above. The responsibility WF has for its community, market, suppliers, and total outlook for the way in which it does business. Certainly WF has a huge influence on the American busness place. I have worked in many companies, but have never found a place or atmosphere like WF. Hopefully the dramatic influence will be felt in other businesses. It's a liberating thing to know that at least one company, WF has a corporate awareness of the market's real needs - not just profits, not just selfish goals, but a real sensitivity to it's community, and being a leader in a new way of doing business. Wow! My despair and lack of faith in the corporate world now feels some fresh air. Thanks, Mark and everybody else. I am so happy to be a part of this. I have never found my place in the corporate world, I guess now I do, and I am committed and hoopeful once again in what we can do, and in each of us as a team. THANKS !!! I'm proud to bag for Whole Foods. We all count, that's the wonderful thing, from the bagger to the shift leader, and on up to the CEO. We count, we influence our world. Cool. Anne

Eugene Kim says …

Mr. Mackey, I have been captivated by the things I've read about you as well as authored by you. After reading this article I couldn't help but be reminded of an article that I read by you that appeared in the Orange County Register. In that article you shared that you hoped younger generations would be more inclined to grasp onto the philosophies of Rand in light of your opinion that the philosophies of the Left seem to be more suited or romantic (paraphrase, and apologies if it is a gross misinterpretation) in the eyes of a youth. I realize that there will be future installments to the Conscious Capitalism model and that the above is not intended to be super in depth, but as one who struggles with establishing and refinining a belief system, I couldn't help but shake the feeling that there was no resolution after reading your article. I definitely agree with your thinking that corporations are not machines but delicate organisms that strive to maintain/achieve some sort of balance among constituencies, but I still don't see how the end result can't be the eating of ones' self. Maybe it's the leftist in me. You mention that investors will want increased returns, and workers will want increased gains and maintaining the demands of said constituents is part of the corporation's roles. I beg to ask the common sense questions (that I don't feel were sufficiently answered in this installment), if constituents will always contend for a green arrow from the center how can this be sustainable? In what world is the investor ever satisfied with less returns, or declining returns? When is an executive management team member ever satisfied with less (hence the raising of the salary cap to maintain competitiveness and retainment)? I know that there are individuals such as yourself that have the ability to realize that enough can be enough. However, how can this model really work (for an extended period of time, say 50-60 years) in a world of corporations and constituents that operate without Consciousness or a different skewed Consciousness? Many of my concerns echo to some extent, those of the comments by Ian on November 12, 2006 03:14 PM. I don't argue with the results you've provided thus far via your company Whole Foods to which I am a loyal patron. After reading this article I am committed to investing in even more shares of your company. I am also very grateful that you also allow a platform for idea exchange. I hope that the later installments or future revisions will contain more real world examples that you yourself have faced in order to help bring more reality to this "New Paradigm for Business". As a closing thought, I found the statistic that you cited to be alarming. Out of all of the data presented this one struck a chord with me the most. The statistic that I am referring to is: "Profits create wealth, prosperity, and additional capital. Capital inputs fund most technological innovation and progress. For example, 200 years ago 95 percent of the world's population was considered poor. Today about 60 percent of the global population is still poor. In the last 200 years we have seen the poverty rate drop from 95% to 60%. At the current rate of growth, we are going to see world poverty drop considerably in the next 50 years; by the year 2050 only about 25 percent of the world's population will remain below the poverty level. We are seeing this happen right now with the explosion in the economies of two of the most populated countries in the world-China and India. These two economies are growing at extremely rapid rates and hundreds of millions of people are being lifted into the middle class and moving out of poverty. This illustrates one of the most important purposes of business. Business has the fundamental responsibility to create prosperity for our society and for the world." I think that if this statistic/argument is to hold any water, it desperately needs an in-article reference and/or clearer definition on what is meant by: poor, lifted into middle class, poverty levels, and moving out of poverty and other deeply charged phrases utilized. I am certain that statistics 200 years ago on what was meant as "poor" is greatly different from the quantitative analysis done today and no amount of normalization would do justice to the notion presented in said paragraph. In my mind, the argument that, "things are better now than they were" isn't enough. Who is to say that "being lifted into the middle class" is a positive thing? Slaves in the 19th century were treated better and were not as "poor" as the slaves of the 18th century, but that is certainly not an argument for slavery; just as the statistics stated above are not a sound argument for the existence of businesses/corporations let alone a justification of "wealth creation, prosperity, and additional capital". The sweeping generalizations in the above paragraph need to be addressed. This is not to mention at what expense these supposed positive things are being generated. "Wealth creation, properity, and additional capital" are being generated at the expense of the environment (The environmental destruction in India and China as a result of this much touted "explosion in the economies" is well documented and can be easily observed first hand today via a simple plane trip and tour), the extinguishing and exploitation of cultures (Tibetan railroad, Heavy corporate outsourcing into Bangalore), and not to mention increasing health problems as a result of new found prosperity (Statistics are readily available and still being compiled revealing the rising rates of obesity, diabetes, and other diseases of affluence in both China and India -- obviously visible here in America). Corporations don't seem to be bringing anyone out of poverty, but it seems that they are simply masking and exchanging. Maybe corporations are exchanging one set of diseases that are treatable for lesser sums of "additional capital" for another set of diseases that are more corporate friendly (Pfizer, Merck, Sanofi etc.). It is possible that corporations are supplanting wages that were earned via manual labour with wages earned at a job that is essentially still a menial and now a sedentary task that takes place in a nicer building fielding technical support calls for the corporations like Dell that you mentioned in your article. Is it just a case that nothing is new under the sun? Isn't "indentured servant" a nicer way of saying "slave"? But I digress... I have very much enjoyed reading your articles and have definitely taken them to heart. I look up to the decisions that you have made on a peronsal and corporate level for inspiration. I apologize if the content of my response seems schizophrenic. I would very much like to read more first hand accounts of the difficulties that you encounter and the solutions you found in dealing with corporations/businesses that operate under different or even opposite protocols from you. Thank you again for providing a forum for me to provide a far from academic/scholarly responses to your extremely well thought, and always eye opening articles.

Andrew says …

Well done! I was pleased to see your reference to "Built to Last" as I believe that book lends additional hard data as a result of incredibly intensive research, to why your concept of "conscious capitalism" in business does indeed work. Some of the companies referenced in the book have been around for decades focused on building a higher purpose than max profits. Being in the (supporting multiple constituencies) grocery business you might appreciate one of my favorite business beliefs..."The fish rots from the head". There are great examples of these companies out there as you said - Enron, Tyco etc. It is very evident to me and others that the "catch of the day" is always fresh at Whole Foods. Continued Success!

Johannes R. Fisslinger says …

Dear Mr. Mackey, I was extremely impressed by your argument about CONSCIOUS CAPITALISM, which I believe has the potential to transform our current model of capitalism. I have run several for profit corporations and my current projects are non-profits and I intend to follow your lead here ... paying even more attention to the points your outline. For one, I totally agree that being a non-profit you need to sustain yourself and not only be dependent on "outside" donations ... something we are aiming for. All the best for WF and keep going with force to promote your CONSCIOUS CAPITALISM philosphy. Best regards, Johannes R. Fisslinger president Intl. Meta-Medicine Association and Heal Breast Cancer Foundation

Madeleine Gallay Rogow says …

Mr. Mackey. I am an investor and a customer. I invested in the company, the vehicle being stock. I am startled that you, in the face of real equity lost (my loss is still around 15,000.00US)to real people, have struck a righteous tone in your statement that you expect your investors to understand that they will probably watch the stock grow over five years. I didn't plan on day-trading your stock but I am angered, and I wasn't at the very real loss of $15,000.00US, that you sound rather offhand in your statement " However, our stock price had been bid up by various short-term speculators to an extremely high price at approximately 50 to 60 times earnings." I think it would be more honest to speak of the things that you and WFMI do that continue to be innovative; the natural skincare line that will also be at Sephora, etc. The efforts to private label that should translate to having Whole Foods products in "normal" grocery stores. There are many things WFMI is doing that break the rules and are growth oriented; that is why I invested a large hunk of my life savings. And if one wants to profit from their investments, and I do, I would not want to invest in a company run by someone not grooving on the good stuff, even when doing the right thing and the smart thing, even something as sexy as Whole Foods. Mr. Mackey, I believed in your company and your smarts and your understanding of how to grow and your statement that all that was an abberation is condescending and, I hope, misstated. I am very cross and a lot poorer; until I read your essay, I was prepared to stay the course and trust your guidance. I am so upset and unprepared for the loss of so much money that seems to mean so little to you - how can you resent that WFMI was a premium Golden Child. You assure on one hand that you WILL grow the business and open stores, even in Europe, and on the other, could it be, chastise the investors. Oh, good night. PS Either stock things other than milk in a serious way or stop it. Sometimes there's natural bedding or robes, etc, and sometimes not. You forget that people learn what they want in store and if it's too random, it can't grow. And I need your company, I am an INVESTOR, to grow.

Mark says …

This article is good food for thought. I agree with the general premise of the article that doing business with good intentions and integrity to all constituents involved in it makes sense. Both in a human way and in a business way. But my view is a bit more pessimistic. I think what you describe as the motive(s) of the founder(s) of a business being not just to maximize profits is valid in the majority of cases. Initially. However, businesses sometimes outlive their founder(s). This is especially the case with successful businesses. When that happens, the original motive and philosophy of the founder disappears. Maybe not immediately, as he/she may have instilled the same motives and principles in his/her successors, but over time this idea gets diluted to the point where the business does become totally focussed on maximizing profits. Some years ago there was a nice analysis in the NRC Handelsblad, a Dutch daily newspaper of high quality, about limited corporations and partnerships. They are limited because the people who run the business are limited in their responsibility for the actions of the company. The article described how the idea of limited corporations was started in a different age by the VOC, the Dutch Far East Company. It was used to fund the highly speculative ventures of sending a ship across the oceans to trade for spices from the Far East. The 'limited' part of the limited corporation was invented to make it more accessible for investors to put their money at risk in such adventures. More often than not, the ship would never be heard of again after leaving port. But the rewards could also be tremendous, easily thousands of percent of the original invested sum. Hence the saying 'my ship has come in'. These limited partnerships lead to the first stock-market in Amsterdam and is what eventually resulted in the stock-markets today. The article argued that today's society would be much more served if limited companies were outlawed. They served a purpose at the time but have no place in today's global society any longer. Instead of having investor's responsibility 'limited' to the amount they pay for the stock, to make them proportionally responsible for all the company's actions to the amount of shares they own. So if a company did something really bad, instead of it going bankrupt, the damages would have to be paid for by the shareholders. A share could get negative value. This way investors would think twice before they invest in, say, an unscrupulous tobacco company. Suddenly investors would have to grow a conscience. I'm afraid some law like that will never come to pass, but I'm also afraid that as long as corporations are allowed to operate with limited responsibility of the investors that, in the long run, big sucessfull corporations always have the maximization of profits as their main goal. Mark

John Mackey says …

Hi Eugene, Let me try to answer some of your questions: 1. How can there be more for everyone, if everyone always wants more? That is the beauty of Conscious Capitalism--more can be produced for everyone. It isn't a zero sum game where someone's gain is someone else's loss. It is a win-win-win-win-win game. 2. How can that be sustainable? It can be sustainable because there is no limit to collective human intelligence or creativity. We are capable of creating an environmentally sustainable world where all humans flourish. That is the goal of Conscious Capitalism. Let's do it! 3. A careful study of history produces overwhelming evidence of the continued collected progress of humanity. Here are 4 books to read: Max Singer, "Passage to a Human World: The Dynamics of Creating Global Wealth"; Stephen Moore, "It's Getting Better All the Time: 100 Greatest Trends of the Last 100 Years"; David Landes, "The Wealth and Poverty of Nations: Why Some are so Rich and Some so Poor"; Nathan Rosenberg, "How the West Grew Rich: The Economic Transformation of the Industrial World". Of course many, many problems remain, but overall human progress is a historical fact which I believe a dispassionate study of long-term history makes very clear. 4. None of the environmental problems are intractable problems, but all are capable of being solved through entrepreneurial creativity and collective human resolve. The fact is that the environment has greatly improved in the United States over the past 100 years--the air and water are both much cleaner than they were 100 years ago, and total forests have grown by millions of acres. This is all well documented by Bjorn Lomborg in his book "The Skeptical Environmentalist". Of course many serious environmental problems remain to be solved (such as Global Warming), but we are capable of solving them and I believe we will do so. Eugene, obviously I'm a very optimistic person. Entrepreneurs tend to be that way. Our disagreements may simply be based on our respective temperaments and therefore we may not come to easy agreement. I do urge you to read the books I recommended above. There are many, many reasons to be both excited and hopeful about the future of humanity. Let me leave you with one last thought, a quote from Michelangelo: "Criticize by Creating."

Arthur B. says …

Assuming that *if* these companies outperform the S&P *then* they have greater productivity is a fallacy. It only means that on average the market tends to underestimate "conscious" companies. For example for all we know, it may think that the profits will be disastrous and they are only terrible. I'm not saying that's the case, I'm saying outperforming the index is no proof at all. Also there's no analysis of sector concentration... it may be that a certain industry sector happends to have concious practices in general and had a good performance recently. Anyway this looks like an ideologicaly biased study and that's a big red light.

Godfrey Semini says …

Dear John; Thank you for your essay "Conscious Capitalism". I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. I find your philosophy on business so refreshing. Looking after the interests of ALL the stakeholders is really common sense but sadly there are too many who only look at short term share holder value. We need people like you to save us from the lunacy of the overvalued, short term, blue sky rubbish of most financial markets.

Laurian White says …

I am very impressed with your business philosophy and standards that Whole Foods upholds. I am very pleased to see that you are developing animal compassionate standards and have read through all of your criteria. The only question that I have is that I see the policies for the well-being of the animals up through transportation, but do not see any standard focused on animal processing, which should be just as important as the life of the animal. Do such standards exist? Being concerned with animal wellfare entails the whole journey from birth to how the amimals are killed. Any comments would be greatly appreciated, Laurian

Eugene Kim says …

Mr. Mackey, Thank you very much for your responses. I will definitely read the books that you recommended. Sincerely, Eugene Kim

Ed says …

Madeline, He apologized for stock drop in the second sentence, even though has absolutely no control over short-term swings in the stock price. You also come off like an individual who refuses to accept responsibility for their own actions. Anyway… If you purchased WF stock in late October 2005, your paper gain was over 25% two months later; if you invested at that point, you lost 25% of your investment on paper less than three months later. If you invested at the bottom that day, you up a quick 20% in two months time, only to lose 40% over the next three months. If you invested at the low that day in August 2006, you would have been up over 40% by late October only to lose 30% of it by early November. That’s one year….pretty volatile for any stock, no? The stock is now trading almost 8% higher than it was just three short months ago. P.S. A. You don’t even have a realized loss, relax, you sound exactly like a retail investor who buys at the top and sells at the bottom. B. Did you perform any Due Diligence before investing? Did you notice the stock was priced to perfection? Did you notice it trades at an expensive multiple compared to its sector, “normal” stores as you call them? Did you notice the violent swings in the stock price over the past several years? Did you notice it had risen 40% since August? Did you read past Annual Reports where the company stated that the double digit comps were not sustainable and would return to historical norms? C. If you’re not a day trader, what’s your timeline for holding the stock? With what annual rate of return would you be happy?

John Mackey says …

To Madeleine, I am truly sorry that you have sustained a $15,000 paper loss (so far) on your investment in our stock. My own paper losses on the downturn were also quite substantial so I do empathize with your situation. However, I fundamentally agree with Ed's comments above: Neither Whole Foods nor myself can control short-term volatility on our stock. Our stock has a tendency to swing wildly both up and down as Ed points out. Quite frankly it is too risky a stock to invest in if you have a short-term time horizon. However, the stock has performed extremely well over the long-term as the chart from the url below indicates: It is important that you realize that Whole Foods posted very strong results for 2006. Sales increased 19%, same-store-sales increased 11%, net profits increased 50%, EVA increased $39 million, and we paid $358 million in cash dividends to shareholders. I believe we are managing Whole Foods very well and we have very strong growth ahead for us for many years to come. However, despite our very strong results, the Market collectively hoped for even stronger results and the slow down in same store sales from 9.9% last quarter to 8.6% in Q4, and to 6.8% for the first few weeks of Q1 resulted in the sell off and the drop in the stock valuation. I believe, however, that Whole Foods remains a good long-term investment for those investors who have long time horizons (5+ years). For those investors with short time horizons I encourage you to invest in another stock as Whole Foods will likely continue to show high volatility in the price of the stock. To Arthur B., I don't offer up as "proof" that stakeholder centered companies are more "productive" than profit centered companies. However, I do offer it as "evidence" that such companies have outperformed the S&P 500 substantially over the past 10 years. Read "Firms of Endearment" when it comes out in early 2007. It is a great book IMO and it offers several compelling arguments to support this point of view. Do you have any evidence that stakeholder centered companies ("Conscious Companies") tend to under perform traditional profit centered companies? If so, please provide the evidence here. Thanks. To Laurian, Your point about slaughter is well taken. I'll make 4 points about it: 1. How slaughter is carried out is important, but not as important as how the animal lives up to the point of slaughter simply because of the differences in time--a few minutes versus several months. 2. USDA slaughter regulations have been improved over the last decade due to the important consulting work of Temple Grandin. 3. There are hundreds of times as many animal farmers as there are animal slaughterhouses. While Whole Foods can find farmers to raise animals to our specifications it is far, far harder to change slaughterhouse procedures to accomodate our needs and desires. Quite bluntly, we are currently too small a customer to have much impact on slaughterhouse procedures at this time. Hopefully this will change over the next several years as we grow. 4. Your concerns are historically well justified (read "Slaughterhouse: The Shocking Story of Greed, Neglect, and Inhumane Treatment Inside the U.S. Meat Industry" by Gail A. Eisnitz). Whole Foods is very concerned about slaughter and we will work to continually improve slaughter procedures over time. As the animal compassionate program grows in customer volume our ability to influence slaughterhouses will grow as well.

Ian says …

Dear John, It's one thing to be an optimist and a firm believer in progress. It's another to be such a firm believer that it blinds you to the facts. In particular I refer to the assertion you make that '.. total forests have grown by millions of acres. This is all well documented by Bjorn Lomborg in his book "The Skeptical Environmentalist".' Unfortunately, despite the rave reviews of this book in pro-business publications such as the Wall Street Journal, Economist etc., many of Lomborg's statistics are wrong. What he says about increasing forest cover has been disproved by satellite data. And, as you of all people should know, it's not just the quantity of tree cover that is important, but the quality. How can the planting of commercial conifer monocultures in temperate climates compensate for the destruction of the incredible biodiversity of tropical rainforests? I'm sure you've walked through both types of forest and noticed the difference - a rainforest is a 24 hour-a-day cacophony, while conifer plantations are deathly silent. See e.g. and, the quote below is from the latter page: "7. Why Lomborg is wrong to say that forested area is increasing More recently, the FAO have re-analysed their data back to 1990 using a more standardised methodology and a separate study (PAGE) has integrated FAO data into remote sensing (satellite) data to obtain a clearer picture of changes over time. The PAGE study points out several problems with the FAO data methodology which would lead to an over-estimate of forest cover. Both of these studies report reductions in overall forest cover in recent years (the FAO reports 0.2 percent reduction in forest cover per year during the 1990's). This average figure masks the fact that there have been small increases in forest cover in the developed world but bigger decreases elsewhere. The loss of forest in the developing countries is of most concern as this is typically older growth, mature forest with a higher biodiversity value. It has also been shown, so far in Brazil and Indonesia, that tropical deforestation rates reported by FAO for the last 10 years have been underestimates." While I respect your vision and optimism, I'm concerned that you may be wearing rose-tinted glasses. Best wishes, Ian

John Mackey says …

To Ian, You are arguing against something I didn't say. I didn't say that total forestry was increasing everywhere in the world--just in the United States. Here is my exact quote: "None of the environmental problems are intractable problems, but all are capable of being solved through entrepreneurial creativity and collective human resolve. The fact is that the environment has greatly improved in the United States over the past 100 years--the air and water are both much cleaner than they were 100 years ago, and total forests have grown by millions of acres. This is all well documented by Bjorn Lomborg in his book "The Skeptical Environmentalist". Of course many serious environmental problems remain to be solved (such as Global Warming), but we are capable of solving them and I believe we will do so." Decline in total world forestry remains a serious problem, but it appears to also have been exaggerated by some environmentalists. However, my quote above refers only to the United States--not the entire world. Here is a quote from "It's Getting Better All the Time" by Stephen Moore, p. 204. "Currently, the Forest Service reports that the United States is growing about 22 million net new cubic feet of wood a year and harvesting only 16.5 million--a net increase of 36% per year. This contrasts with the situation in the early years of this century, when about twice as many trees were cut as were planted." "In this century, despite a fivefold increase in population, the percentage of land space that is covered by forest has remained remarkably constant at about 1/3 of the land area of the United States." "Economists Roger A. Sedjor and Marion Clawson of Resources for the Future have documented the long-term improvement in the inventory of U.S. forests. "As a result of dramatically higher wood growth in the United States, and as a result of timber harvest at a rate less than growth, inventories of standing timber have increased significantly since 1920. The popular view is that the United States is consuming its wood faster than it is growing and that we are denuding our forests. In fact, exactly the reverse is happening--we are building them up." Ian, in the United States the immigrants from Europe did in fact decrease forests in the United States significantly as they cleared lands of trees to plant crops and to graze cattle. This went on for several hundreds of years. However, the exact opposite is now occurring today. Much of the marginal farm and grazing lands in New England, Texas, and many other parts of the country are now steadily returning to forests as the land does not have adequate farming and grazing value to economically pay. On an anecdotal note, I see this happening all over the Hill Country in Texas where I live. The trees were cut down to graze cattle in the 19th and early 20th centuries. However, much of this land is no longer good cattle country (and probably never was) and so now this same land is being steadily recaptured by expanding forests. Please don't misunderstand me. I am not arguing that we don't still have serious environmental problems. We certainly do and I'm very committed to increasing environmental protections throughout the United States and the world. My argument is that we are capable of solving these problems and in fact there are many examples of environmental problems improving rather than getting worse due to deliberate human actions. Air and water quality are tremendously improved in the United States over the past 50 years. For example, lead concentrations have fallen by more than 97% since 1976. During the same time period sulfur dioxides have decreased 58%, nitrogen dioxides by 27%, ozone by 30%, and carbon monoxide by 61% (Environmental Protection Agency--National Air Quality and Emissions Trends Report).

CKM says …

I would urge people posting comments to stick to issues raised in the essay. Buying stocks is a risky business - no wonder it comes with a disclaimer and it will be unfair for the WFM stock prices to hijack the good issues raised in the article.There are countless blogs discussing stock prices and thats the best venue.No normal human being would like the stock for his company to drop. Admittedly, issues raised in the essay are beyond narrow analysis and call for careful dissection of facts and advanced research unlike just jumping on posting comments. Being a Thanks Givng period, i wish WFM a great field period filled with serving people tasty, organic and pesticide free foods for this joyous period. As a happy team member with keen interest in management research and academics, the organizational culture and management style of WFM gives me the rare opportunity to carefully reflect on what our CEO stands out for and shares in the essay- redefining certain business concepts because of the growth the company has experienced. Can we get that from the Publix/Safeway blogs, if any exist? Bet not! The tenets of competitive environment is the quest for information flow and people interested in company operations are determined to get the information they need in one way or another and thats what we get from our CEO. To John, keep that information flowing and a happy Thanks Giving day to all the great team members of WFM. Lets rock those numbers! A question for John: Any deliberate plans to join the fight against AIDS especially in third world countries like Africa countries? I ask this question because i know certain countries in Africa which stand for the same reasons WFM promotes - A country called Zambia in particular rejected GMO food donations from industrialized nations- and opted for organic foods despite countless number of its citizens starving and living on less than a dollar per day if lucky.

Ian says …

Dear John, You're absolutely right, in my haste to point out the deficiencies of "The Skeptical Environmentalist" I committed exactly the same kind of error that Bjorn Lomborg has been accused of. My quote was out of context and I apologize. According to the Forest Inventory and Analysis National Program of the US Forest Service ( "Since 1900, forest area in the U.S. has remained statistically within 745 million acres +/-5% with the lowest point in 1920 of 735 million acres. U.S. forest area in 2000 was about 749 million acres." This same analysis says that this is about 33% of all land in the US. So, as you say, forests in the US do seem to be recovering. One reason for this however is that imports of timber from other countries (particularly Canada) have been increasing - according to the Forest Service ( - p.12) "In 1999, lumber imports to the United States from all countries totaled 19.9 billion board feet, an all-time high (Tables 28 and 31). During the same year, exports from the United States to all countries totaled just 2.5 billion board feet (Tables 28 and 32). The difference, 17.4 billion board feet, was net foreign trade and represented lumber consumption in the United States in excess of that which was produced domestically." On the bright side (particularly if you're a tree) most timber in this country is consumed by the construction industry, and with the current downturn in new housing construction, tree cover in both Canada and the States should expand. And of course the situation is far better in the States than in Japan, which is covered in both old-growth and plantation forest from North to South, but hardly uses any of it because it's cheaper to cut down the tropical rainforests of their SE Asian neighbors instead. The tried and true economic principle of comparative advantage, in other words... The EPA statistics you mentioned are very interesting, I think what's happened is that *emissions* of these substances have fallen drastically, thanks to the Clean Air Act passed under the Nixon Administration. Notice how it was government regulations that caused an improvement in the environment rather than companies voluntarily cleaning up their act. I'm sure that if Exxon Mobil, Chevron and the rest had had their way, it would have taken much longer for lead to be removed from gasoline. Nevertheless, as you say, air quality in the US is far better than it was in the '70s. It would improve even more, and perhaps even mitigate global warming, if this country could make a quick switch to less polluting forms of transportation, but, if you've ever seen a documentary called "Who Killed the Electric Car" ( you'll know that there is very little interest from the corporations in making this switch any time soon. Let me reiterate, I greatly respect your efforts to work within the "system" to make the world a better place for all living beings. Like many people who are concerned about maintaining the diversity of life on this planet, I have my doubts about whether corporations in general can have a positive effect in this regard, but since you are committed and honest enough to allow gadflies like myself to air their views on your forum, I am willing to suspend disbelief in the case of your company. I wish you all the best! Ian

Dean Williams says …

Mr. Mackey, As an entrepreneur and CEO myself, I wanted to applaud your efforts, and philosophy as written here and elsewhere that I’ve followed for several years. I agree strongly with Conscious Capitalism as you’ve presented it here, and have been diligently working on promoting these same principles within my company. I appreciate your leadership on this subject, and have little to offer in criticism at this juncture. Be assured there are businesses and leaders who agree with these very principles; find them as you do, tenants for managing within the new opportunities being granted in the Information age; and therefore supportive as well as demonstrative of the very principles you have outlined. I look forward to your next chapters.

Peter Strople says …

John you are a light in a very dark world. We are all searching for the meaning of life and we all at our core want to make a difference. The business you have created and the way it is attempting to help through Conscious Capitalism are admirable. You and Whole Foods are great examples how a persons heart can manifest through business into an action oriented endeavor that makes this world a better place to live. You are a testament to how one person can make a difference and how you can use business to do a greater good! Thanks for showing us the way!

John Mackey says …

World Poverty is declining: People have asked me about my statistics concerning poverty reduction. Here are some statistics from the World Bank from 2004: Global Poverty Down By Half Since 1981 But Progress Uneven As Economic Growth Eludes Many Countries Available in: Arabic, French, Japanese, Chinese, Russian, Portuguese, Spanish, Russian Press Release No:2004/309/S Contacts: In Washington: Christopher Neal (202) 473-7229 Cynthia Case (TV/Radio) (202) 473-2243 WASHINGTON, April 23, 2004 — The proportion of people living in extreme poverty (less than $1 a day) in developing countries dropped by almost half between 1981 and 2001, from 40 to 21 percent of global population, according to figures released today by the World Bank. But while rapid economic growth in East and South Asia has pulled over 500 million people out of poverty in those two regions alone, the proportion of poor has grown, or fallen only slightly, in many countries in Africa, Latin America and Eastern Europe and Central Asia. This uneven progress raises concerns that the eight Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) approved by 189 nations in 2000, the first of which is to reduce the 1990 poverty rate by half by 2015, may be beyond reach for some countries. "Economic growth in China and India has delivered a dramatic reduction in the number of poor," said François Bourguignon, the Bank's Chief Economist. "But other regions have not enjoyed sustained growth and, in too many cases, the number of poor has actually increased. Although we are likely to reach the first Millennium Development Goal of reducing poverty by half worldwide by 2015, much more aid, much more openness to trade, and more widespread policy reforms are needed to achieve all the MDGs in all countries." The Bank's annual statistical report, World Development Indicators 2004 (WDI), released today, shows a drop in the absolute number of people living on less than $1 a day in all developing countries from 1.5 billion in 1981, to 1.1 billion in 2001, with much of the progress occurring in the 1980s. Between 1990 and 2001, the global decline in the number of extremely poor people slowed somewhat, falling by about 120 million—from 1.2 billion to 1.1 billion people—while the proportion of poor people dropped from 28 percent to 21 percent of the total population. Gross domestic product (GDP) per capita in all developing countries rose by 30 percent between 1981 and 2001. In East Asia, where GDP per capita tripled, with average annual growth of 6.4 percent, the proportion of people living in extreme poverty fell from 58 to 16 percent, and the absolute number pulled out of extreme poverty since 1981 was more than 400 million. Dramatic progress against absolute poverty has been made by China, where GDP per capita went up five times since 1981 and the number of extremely poor fell from over 600 million to slightly more that 200 million, or from 64 percent to 17 percent. About half of this progress was in the first half of the 1980s. In South Asia, a 5.5 percent average annual GDP growth rate in the 1990s helped reduce the proportion of extremely poor from 41 in 1990 to 31 percent. But because this economic expansion coincided with rapid population growth in the region since 1990, the absolute number living on less than $1 a day dropped by just 34 million since 1990, to 428 million in 2001. In marked contrast to East and South Asia, poverty actually rose in Sub-Saharan Africa. Since 1981, a 13-percent contraction in GDP per capita in Sub-Saharan Africa resulted in a near-doubling of the number of people living on less than $1 a day, from 164 million to 314 million, a rise from 42 to 47 percent of the region's population. In Eastern Europe and Central Asia, too, high unemployment and declining output in many of the formerly centrally-planned economies drove extreme poverty rates up from near-zero in 1981 to six percent by 1999, but there is evidence of a recent decline in the poverty rate. The number of people living on less than $2 a day in Eastern Europe and Central Asia rose from eight million (two percent) in 1981 to over 100 million (24 percent) in 1999, dropping back to slightly more than 90 million (20 percent) in 2001. In Latin America and the Caribbean, economic growth rose only slightly through the 1990s, and poverty fell only marginally. The proportion of poor in the region in 2001, including both those living on less than $1 and $2 a day—10 percent and 25 percent respectively—was roughly comparable to that in 1981, when they were 10 percent and 27 percent. In the Middle East and North Africa, extreme poverty dropped by about half since 1981, from five percent to two percent in 2001, while the proportion living on less than $2 a day was down from 29 percent in 1981 to 23 percent in 2001. Here is the url on the full World Bank Report:,,contentMDK:20194973~menuPK:34463~pagePK:64003015~piPK:64003012~theSitePK:4607,00.html Humanity still has a long way to go to end poverty throughout the entire world. The important thing to understand, however, is that we are making steady progress towards that goal. Collective Human Intellectual Capital is rapidly growing--and spreading throughout the world. There is no reason to believe that this trend will not only continue but will likely accelerate and as it does, humanity will put an end to poverty--in this century. Please note, however, that there is one major exception to the overall upward flow of human prosperity--Sub-Saharan Africa. This is due to a multiplicity of causes--war, AIDS, the lack of good governments, the lack of entrepreneurial capitalism, the relative lack of trust and other forms of social capital--to name just a few. We won't end poverty in the world until Sub-Saharan Africa fully participates in the upward flow of human development.

Walter Solomon says …

Wilst I applaud your concept and look forward to your store opening in London next year, I find one gaping omission in your website, your blog and the responses to your blog. Nowhere do you or your correspondents mention the issue of FOOD MILES. One of the major causes of global warming is the growth of air travel. I am not one who will not fly to save the pollution of my flight. If I do not fly I cannot enjoy the pleasures of international travel and discovery. But I do try to purchase locally grown organic food. Some UK supermarkets already name the farmer on the produce package. Why should I buy tomatoes from Italy during the growing season in the UK? I am sure a similar question applies in the USA. If you would purchase locally grown produce wherever possible you would save the pollution and global warming caused by air or ground transportation from more distant producers.

Mary Anne Davis says …

Dear John- I applaude your vision and your future book. I look forward to reading more. I have thought if it as Social Capitalism, but I like Conscious Capitalism better. Under "Suppliers as Partners", I ask that you elaborate considerably. Grameen's success is relative to creating producers, the backbone of any economy. Your suppliers are most often producers, and their ability as such determines your or any business's long term sustainable success. Artisanal production is often overlooked as a potential area for development, with the factory (scale is the really the point here) seen as the most efficient way to create goods. A network of micro-enterprises, micro-factories, micro-farms could create the foundation for a distribution system as created by Whole Foods, for instance. These micro-enterprises could be extremley efficient, as per each individual entrepreneur/producer sees fit. Freedom in production. The back story for all the goods in the store would then be very rich and deep, indeed. While this suggestion can be assumed by WFM, it also has potential in other areas of distribiution. If ethics and transparency are foundational to a sustainable future, then production, the means of production and the inventors, creators, artists, and farmers who produce are also essential partners in your network. Yours truly- Mary Anne Davis

Bill Chapman says …

I was very pleased to read that recently (?) you have decided to not sell live lobsters at any of your stores. It is a long time coming that a policy such as you have implemented, not torturing live animals and treating them with a certain amount of respect,was put into place in a major way. When we institutionalize cruelty, we give our tacit agreement on those methods, and the results. And yes we are killing and eating the end product! This does not mean we should treat these beings with any less respect. I truly hope you and yours continue on this road. Good luck and long life.

Mike Rock says …

This essay has concepts straight from Michael Phillips curious little books it looks like: Honest Business and The Seven Laws of Money. This is probably not an accident. I've enjoyed the ideas in these books and it is interesting to see the ideas in action.

Joseph R. Serrano says …

Greetings John, I am a young entrepreneur and a case study for Conscious Capitalism in my endeavor to reinvent the industry of fabric care (aka dry cleaning) into one that is in partnership with our planet and integrated into the fashion world. My concept is underway, has won statewide business plan awards, and continues to earn interest in the business community. However, I need funding and a management team. My question revolves around finding the "right" investors, advisors, and partners for a "Conscious Capitalism" company. I constantly make reference to you, Whole Foods, and other companies that have created tremendous long term value with the approach you articulate. It is in vogue these days to say you believe in these principles, but in practice it is rare. How do I keep it authentic as the Founder when I need capital, management, and all that comes with it? My concept will take alot of capital and more time than 98% of companies backed with venture funds, but long term it can ultimately change an industry and create Whole Foods-like value to all stakeholders. I have just begun the search for capital, and other resources, but I suspect I would be laughed out of the room at most VC's. I know the "right" investors, advisors, and partners are out there to act as a catalyst for the Conscious Capitalism evolution--after all, you found them for Whole Foods. Where are they? Do Conscious Capitalism venture funds exist? How about angel investor groups that focus on Conscious Capitalism principles? These seem to me to be a vital component of creating the new paradigm. I would love to hear your thoughts. Kindest Regards, Joseph R. Serrano Vantagio

CKM says …

John, Thanks a lot for the information on poverty reduction and your very perfect analysis of the situation especially in Sub Sahara Africa - where I happen to come from. AIDS, lack of proper accountable governance has hindered a lot of development in this part of the world.The most booming business is in the coffin making sector as the demand is so much higher as a result of so many deaths mostly due to AIDS. All the educated people are running away or rushing to join in looting the few resources at their disposal once they join government positions. The World bank and major donors wrote off debts to most of these countries and that has not benefited the common man as millions of people wallow in serious poverty while the very few in government enjoy the sweet of power by driving the most expensive cars money can buy,spreading AIDS,corruption,etc. Look at the Swaziland king, he just bought a chain of top of the line BMWs for all his many wives and gets himself the most expensive mercedes benz. Our leaders have no priorities and are heartless. Its so heart breaking to talk to people down there because every time you make a call, they will inform you that, "oh that person passed away." As educated as you can get here, its again a waste of time and human capital to go down there and try to influence change without financial capital. Micro Finance companies backed by the European Economic Union have tried to pursue microfranchising - networks of small, successful, locally-owned businesses, designed for replication, providing essential goods and services plus jobs in low-income communities; on the same premises as that one done by Muhammad Yunus, winner of the 2006 Nobel Peace Prize. This has not worked because of very high interest rates charged on these loans and lack of proper information management as the executives for these same micro financing companies get paid very high salaries and end up more like exploiting the very people they are supposed to help. I have developed keen interest in studying and evaluating micro financing as pursued by Muhammad Yunus and see how best the same guidelines could be applied in Sub Saharan context and its an ongoing debatable subject with my peers working for the World bank and local banks down in Africa. Thanks once more, at least people of your calibre and vision give hope to continue the fight for poverty reduction as seen from the many vendors spread across the world your company promotes and supports to better their living conditions through sustainable farming and your genuine concern for human kind, environment and social justice.

Mark Tilton says …

Dear Mr. Mackey, I have read your Chapter and agree with all that you write. I have just returned from Purdue University and it seems all the Business courses do not have a model such as this, rather a model to maximize profits. Sometimes maximizing these profits can come at the expense of other things that are neccessary to the working company, such as employee moral and customer appreciation. Need we remind anyone that there would be no way to make any money without a customer and no need for customers if there was no market for such a great product e selling. I am a TM at the DC in Munster, Indiana and look forward to working with this great company for a long time. -mark

Harry Thompson, COO Traders Point Creamery says …

John: I am the operations manager of a smal lbut growing family owned organic dairy farm and creamery. We agree with the business philosophy espoused in your essay and are doing our best to make it a reality. As an MBA minted in the 1960's, it took me many years to see that the "conventional wisdom" of that era failed to account for the fact that business is a system that must deal with many complex interactions and serve many stakeholders. Also, the notion of managing for excellance and profits will follow, took a while to sink in. In my opinion, those embarking on the journey to implement "Conscious Capitalism" face a long and often difficult road. A rosd on which the must avoid: 1) Losing their entreprenurial spirit. 2) Being seduced by money and selling out. 3) Succumbing to the instant gratification society we live in. I believe your thoughts on employees are on target. I would like to know more about your selection process. An essential element of ours is making certain that potential employees are alligned with our corporate philosophy and mission. In other words, they are true believers. If they are, the pitfalls mentioned above will be easier to avoid.

fritolay says …

Dear Mr. Mackey, I just read the WSJ article regarding your reduction in salary, and to say the least, I am impressed. For a host of reasons, I think your action sends a signal to both employees and stockholders that you are sincere regarding the responsibility you bare as CEO, influencing perceptions and decisions. If more CEO's took the posture you have, companies thorughout the U.S. might be saved from both economic challenges as well as poor perception from both employees and consumers, as well as society and that community. On another note, I love your store. I was introduced to Whole Foods before the stores ruptured on the N.Y. scene. I only wish it were in my budget to do major food shopping in your outlets. But never fear, at any opportunity, I peruse the aisles, dreaming, buying delicious bread pudding from the prepared food sections, and thanking God, someone had the genius to create such a retail outlet.

Barbara Garcia says …

Hi, I am a new team member in Prep. Foods. CSP in Florida. I just wanted to thank you becuase I have never worked for a compnay that is as postivie and cares about their employees as much as WFM does.

Ian says …

Hello again John, I just noticed an article in Mother Jones by Bill McKibben about "corporate social responsibility" that you and other contributors to this blog might find interesting. Be warned however that he's a well-known greenie, so his tone is somewhat skeptical. Best wishes, Ian

JLowther says …

You are correct. Corporations are the most influential institutions in the world today. The key is the money behind it all. Yes, we need a new paradigm in business but will it be accepted? I don't know. Capitalism is based on competition but it has decayed into avarice and unfair advantages. Because of the scandals you mentioned (ie Enron, Tyco,, etc.), people do not trust big business, and do you blame them? That is why I was very impressed that you are willing to take a pay cut in your salary and try to make the Whole Foods idea take hold. In the world of business today, the small business man is usually the one who is forced out of the picture. I have seen it happen many times with different people I know who owned their own businesses. Big conglomerates seem to take over and just become bigger and continue to eat up the small business man and his company. It is not what is wrong with capitalism but instead what is wrong with man. Generally, we have warped healthy competition into selfish greed. That is why it is refreshing to see your position that you are taking. Bravo. J Lowther By the way, I love the Whole foods store, and I shop there. I love your concepts that you put into practice in the store. Instead of supplying a very limited variety of what can maximize your sales, you also supply the items one cannot find in the big grocery food chains and at a fairly reasonable price. Very innovative. Please keep up this focus. I also agree with fritolay above and Harry Thompson who is running his small family owned creamery -- go small business man.


Today i met the second most powerful man in Whole Foods Market AC Gallo and at the end of the store visit, i asked myself so many questions which i will never get answers to and some how got the insight and personal convinction that there is more to management than just putting on expensive suits and speaking in a loud voice annoucing that the boss is here. Getting to interact with John on the blog was an eye opener but i really felt humbled to see with my owm eyes what it means to have the convinction that there is no such thing as busy executives without interacting with the very team members at the bottom of company rankings. Indeed, you need to rewrite management thinking especially based on this successful WFM model.

Frederick Coykendall says …

This open concept of comunication between the head of an organization and the public is either a very astute marketing strike, or it's a genuine avenue for discourse; either way, the openness is very unusual in the food business, or any business for that matter. I am a senior manager in a hog production company, Rocky Mountain Pork (5000 sows). We ethically raise swine for the retail food market in the west/northwest USA and even though we say words and phrases like "lean" and "ethical" and "whole food", 99% of our production still ends up in the slice and dash meat trade where none of the extra work, care and value add means anything to the retailer and in the end, to the consumer; it's business as usual. That said, it's nice to see a company like Whole Foods open up to the public and deliver on what they say they will delvier on. Nice idea. Nice work. Frederick Coykendall Rocky Mountain Pork

Bob Jacklin says …

John: Congratulations on the success of WFMI. I appreciate that you have been able to provide above market rewards for your employees and other stakeholders by charging your customers, a much higher price because they voluntarily buy into the WFMI experience, much like a Starbux customer. I think this is democracy, capitalism, and marketing at its best. As you have noted, it is a voluntary exchange. Bravo! I read your blog and you are not defining a new paradigm for business. I did not read anything in Conscious Capitalism that could be considered new. It appears to be just another book by a successful executive cashing in on his success. I have no problem with this. Many will be interested in your views and experiences. Every company I worked for during the last 20+ years had detailed mission statements and strategic plans that reflected an understanding that they were in partnership with their employees, customers, suppliers, environment, and local community. While I worked for a defense contractor, we had an outstanding recycling program and other environmental initiatives. Even WAL-Mart does an outstanding job of donating to thousands of local charities and school systems. My favorite company is the privately held Chik-Fil-A. While I applaud your understanding of the complexities of running a company, I think most companies today see themselves as either (your terms) good, true, beautiful, or heroic. Defense contractors have the most heroic business purposes I have ever read. They are the very protectors of freedom and democracy. They are in search of new frontiers (Boeing). Gambling casinos are in the world-class entertainment business. I do not know of a single enterprise that defines itself in the business of making money. However, I have read many a mission statements that read (along the lines of) "we will return above average returns to our investors." The reason that most not-for-profits are not economically sustainable is that they will lose their not-for-profit tax standing (and many of their contributions) if they untertake economic activities that would sustain them longer term. Wouldn't it be great if every high school student attending public schools had to read "Atlas Shrugged" and gain an understanding that most good things come from business. Government sponsored programs are paid for by the taxes provided by companies and their employees. The standard of living improvements are the result of the activities of thousands of businesses. I recognize that there are a few bad apples in the business world (as in every other area of life), that have helped tarnish the reputation of business. Instead of writing a book about a new paradigm, where none exists, I would rather you write a book about have we have become a paranoid state due to the 24 hour news channels bombarding us with negativity at an unprecedented rate. After twenty plus years as a business executive, and after sitting on the boards of two small companies, I thought I would give back by becoming a middle school math teacher in the public schools just outside Atlanta. What I experieced in ten weeks provided enough for a book on the failure of our public school system. Now there is a topic for a book. Continued success and fair play to your stakeholders. Best wishes. Bob Jacklin

TW says …

I just wanted to say that I'm 24 now and wish I could have read more on this subject when I was 14. I really enjoyed the essay. Thanks.

John Mackey says …

To Walter Solomon, I believe the virtues of Food Miles is greatly exaggerated by proponents of local foods. It is not the simple test of environmental integrity that many would have us believe. As is almost always the case, the issue of food and environmental integrity is highly complex. In addition there are other important issues besides environmental concerns, such as helping poor people in other countries, that should be taken into account. I want to quote extensively from Peter Singer and Jim Mason's wonderful new book, "The Way We Eat: Why Our Food Choices Matter": "Food production, processing, manufacturing, distribution, and preparation consumes somewhere between 12 and 20 percent of the U.S. energy supply. Per capita, the U.S. uses more energy for food production, processing, and distribution than Asia and African use for all activities combined. Nevertheless, transportation of the food is, according to one study, responsible for only 11% of the total energy used in the food system, as compared with for example, home preparation, which uses 26%, or processing which consumes 29% of the total. Nor is all transport equal in energy use. Transporting a given amount of food by plane uses the most energy per mile, almost twice as much as road freight and 20 times more energy than sending it by ship or rail" (p. 145). "If air freight is the most energy-extravagant way of moving food, sending it by sea or rail are the most economical ways. Rice is grown in California, under irrigation, but it takes a lot of energy to grow it there--about 15 to 25 times as much energy as it takes to grow rice by low energy input methods in Bangladesh. The energy used in shipping a ton of rice from Bangladesh to San Francisco is less than difference between the amount of energy it takes to grow it in California and in Bangladesh, so if you live in San Francisco, you would save energy by buying rice that has traveled thousands of miles by sea, rather than locally grown rice." "To put the energy involved in sea transport in perspective with other energy uses, taking the average car just five extra miles to visit a local farm or market will put as much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere as shipping 17 pounds of onions halfway around the world, from New Zealand to London" (p. 148). "Driving 20 miles in a big SUV to pick up eggs from a local farmer and then heading off in a different direction to get fresh local produce would almost certainly be less energy-efficient than buying everything at a single supermarket, even if the food has traveled further to get there" (p. 149). As Singer and Mason point out, transportation is only 11% of the total energy used in food production--a relatively small percentage. Food that is transported by ship uses comparatively speaking very little energy. We can actually reduce total energy useage by buying food from poor countries that use little energy in food production and then using ships to transport that food across the ocean and trucks from the ports to the stores. In addition, there is the very important truth that buying food from poor countries improves the standard of living of the farmers and the workers in those poor countries. Singer and Mason are again relevant on this issue: "Today the Del Cabo cooperative (in Mexico) has about 300 small farms and earns $7 million a year in sales of organic vegetables. The farmers can send their children to school and feed their families more adequately than they could before. While many Mexican farmers are selling their land and going to live in the nation's crowded cities, the Del Cabo farmers are staying on the land. The Del Cabo cooperative stands as an ethical alternative to the idea that we should only buy locally produced food. For those of us living in the United States, Canada, Europe, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and other developed countries, a decision to buy locally produced food is a decision not to buy food from countries that are significantly worse off than our own. If Americans were all "locavores," the small farmers of Del Cabo would still be living in poverty and almost certainly still using pesticides and chemical fertilzers--unless they had sold their land for tourist developments" (p. 151-152).

John Mackey says …

To Mary Anne Davis, I completely agree with your vision. Whole Foods has begun investing in artisanal producers and bringing them into our supply chain over the next several years. Thank you for the suggestion. To Joseph Serrano, Unfortunately I do not personally know of Conscious Venture Capitalists. We went the traditional route back in 1988 and sold 34% of Whole Foods for $4.5 million. It was enough money to get us to our I.P.O. in 1992 and we didn't give up control of our business to the V.C.s. I wish I could help you, but I cannot. Good luck to you. To CKM, I share your concerns about Sub-Saharan Africa. The Whole Planet Foundation has begun thinking about places we can begin working in partnership with the Grameen Trust in micro-credit projects in Africa. However, this won't happen for at least a few more years as our next countries to launch in will be India, Nicaragua, and the Honduras. We hope to get something going in Africa by 2009. By the way, I just returned from the Nobel Peace Prize ceremony in Oslo where I participated in the great honoring of Muhammed Yunus and the Grameen Bank. Professor Yunus is one of my personal heroes and we remain excited about our partnership with Grameen around the world to end poverty everywhere--including Africa. To Frederick Coykendall at Rocky Mountain Pork, Please contact if you wish to try to sell your pork in our animal compassion system. Andrew will evaluate your program and see if there is a fit with our program. To Bob Jacklin, We will need to agree to disagree about whether the world needs a new business paradigm or not. Perhaps the ideas I discuss seem obvious to you, but unfortunately that is not the case for most other people. I have lectured to M.B.A. students at over a dozen universities and the ideas of Conscious Capitalism were warmly received by the students and usually attacked by the professors. These ideas are most certainly not yet mainstream ideas in academia, the media, with economists, or in the larger society. Here is a wonderful quote by J.B.S. Haldane: "Theories have four stages of acceptance: i) this is worthless nonsense; ii) this is an interesting, but perverse, point of view. iii) this is true but quite unimportant. iv) I always said so." - J.B.S. Haldane You seem to be in category 4 in the above list. Most of the other opinions I hear fall into the other 3 categories. I also do not share your very favorable views of Wal-Mart, gambling casinos, Chik-Fil-A, and defense companies--all of which have serious ethical problems IMO and are all far from practicing Conscious Capitalism. Wal-Mart has serious issues with the treatment of their workers (poor pay and health benefits as perceived by most people including myself), gambling casinos with customer gambling addictions resulting in bankruptcy and impoverishment, Chik-Fil-A with the horrible conditions of factory farm chickens which they use, and defense companies with developing ever more efficient ways to kill people. I also have mixed opinions about Ayn Rand. While I share many of her views regarding freedom, business, capitalism,and self-responsibility, I find her uncompromising hostility against all forms of altruisim--love, care, compassion--to be elitist and actively harmful to the larger brands of Business and Capitalism (see my previous blog on "Winning the Battle for Freedom and Prosperity").

Bob Jacklin says …

John: Thanks for your response. Perhaps you misunderstood many of my comments. I was not passing a judgment on Wal-Mart, defense contractors, or even Ayn Rand. I was pointing out that the premise that you are presenting a new paradigm is inaccurate. I purposely chose controversial examples such as defense contractors, gambling casinos, and Wal-Mart as because even these companies define themselves and their missions in altruistic terms (ie good, true, beautiful, or heroic). I believe "Atlas Shrugged" is an outstanding economic work that explains how the world works and how the government doesn't. No judgment on the author is implied, other than how it relates to this work. John Naisbitt wrote "Reinventing the Corporation" twenty years ago and introduced the concept of the Fortunate 500. A fortunate 500 company is not measured by its size and volume but rather by the level of service and quality provided to its customers and the quality of life enjoyed by its employees. "Managing By Values" (Blanchard and O'Connor) was written over ten years ago and discusses the need for company's to share a common vision, purpose, and set of values. The fact that many MBAs might find your views new or refreshing may speak more to your celebrity or to the fact that have very limited reading backgrounds. Every transaction between Wal-Mart and its employees is a voluntary transaction and therefore I would never judge it. While Wal-Mart does not offer the pay and benefits that our (I am a shareholder) company does, it does offer food at prices well below WFMI. Many poor and economically disadvantaged simply cannot afford our prices and our stores are not located in their neighborhoods. I am glad that Wal-Mart offers low prices. Wal-Mart employees have the right to unionize or to seek employment at WFMI in order to get a better deal. I trust them to solve their problems. Life is a series of trade-offs. The best we can hope for is an environment based on free choices, voluntary exchanges, and opportunities. I recommend "The Quest For Cosmic Justice" by Thomas Sowell for your consideration. It will, at a minimum, have you re-think some of your views. It might also shake you to your very core. It and "Spiritual Man" by Watchman Nee are way up on my list. Take Care, Bob Jacklin